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Honey (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Wait, is it really just nectar with less water content then? Could we make honey ourselves without all the bees by just collecting a bunch of nectar and evaporating off some of the water?

[–] greedytacothief 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think having thousands of insects collect that nectar is more efficient than trying to do it by hand. But I'd be curious to taste if the bees impart any additional flavor. I know honey made by giving bees primarily sugar water doesn't taste like much, but there could be other stuff going on with the nectar inside the bee.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have you ever tasted flower nectar?

I grow gladiolus sometimes, and they produce a lot of nectar, but there aren’t any pollinators for those flowers around me, so I remove the nectar myself with a syringe. There isn’t a lot in each flower, but it’s nice in a cup of tea.

It doesn’t really taste like honey, even dilute honey. It doesn’t taste like just sugar water, either, though. I’m sure each flowering plant produces a subtly different flavor, like fruit.

And indeed, honey apparently tastes different depending what the bees are feeding on. But I’d say it’s probably a mix of something bee-specific and the nectar itself.

[–] Holyhandgrenade 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe it's similar to how tree sap tastes different after you've boiled it down to syrup?
Maple sap has a pleasant, very mildly sweet flavor whereas maple syrup is the greatest thing on earth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe, although the flavor of that probably does change somewhat due to being boiled, just like I imagine the bee concentration/dehydration process adds something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The math is interesting: it takes 40L of sap to produce 1L of syrup which means only 2.5% of the original sap remains after boiling it. I wonder if it caramelizes slightly from the boiling process.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The bit about flowers creating different honey is VERY true, here in sweden it's popular to make honey specifically from heather and it's distinctly different from regular honey.

My dad favours clover honey.

[–] teft 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

collecting a bunch of nectar and evaporating off some of the water

That's basically the process to make real maple syrup. They just boil sap instead of letting it evaporate to get syrup. I bet if we could collect nectar and figure out the bee's gut bacteria we could make honey.

Edit: A quick web search later:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeliBio

[–] FuglyDuck 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the flowers the nectar is collected from also influence the flavor of the honey, so you'll have slight regional distinctions there.

[–] teft 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And if you use rhododendron nectar you end up with hallucinogenic honey:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayanotoxin#Mad_honey_intoxication

[–] Holyhandgrenade 2 points 1 month ago

I finally know what inspired that weird Futurama episode!