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[–] [email protected] 125 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Neat. So some of them are nice. Doesn’t make the practice of “optimizing” search a noble deed because some of them think themselves on some high tower. In the end you are trying to push your site above others based on your ability to game the system, rather than relevance of your content. When you do this, I don’t think it’s relevant if you’re a nice person with feelings…

[–] [email protected] 97 points 11 months ago

SEO ruined the Internet because it made SEO essential to be seen in relevant search results above other less relevant search results. In other words, less relevant search results can often be seen on the first page along with more relevant search results, or even sometimes instead of relevant search results on the first 2 pages of any reputable search engine.

Also, Internet Reputation companies have proven that SEO and fake content can be used as a weapon to push relevant search results so far down nobody sees them anymore.

Finally, how many times have you searched for something just to come across some random webpage with just a bunch of word salad that happens to somehow be relevant. An easy example of this are phone numbers. You search for a phone number that called you and chances are you won't see much relevant data. Just a mix of "robocaller" reporting websites -- usually with no information and random websites with just a bunch of phone numbers in sequential order with no relevant data whatsoever. Even if it's a business' actual phone number.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They claim they didn't ruin the Internet, but yet every single one I've worked with very aggressively keyword stuffed the shit out of the sites, even a blog with fake authors and carefully written junk top 10 blog posts to bring as much traffic as possible. I've even discovered they exploited Wordpress instances to stuff links to our site on it, when they weren't just leaving junk comments with a link to the website.

They're the very reasons so many sites have so many fucking useless tutorials and top 10s and whatnot. They go after search engines, and in that process, you gotta make your site appear to have loads of articles and content about a topic so it gets favored in search engines.

[–] Gregorech 8 points 11 months ago

This is a different version of putting text the same color as your background at the end if your page, with your keywords typed over and over.

[–] Landmammals 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Anyone who has searched for a recipe in the last few years knows that they ruined the internet with SEO shit.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah okay businessinsider... You did it. You ruined the internet with seo.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 19 points 11 months ago

Business insider is one of the worsts.

Literally anybody who can blog can write on their site. And they're all "opinions" so you get a lot of wannabe "entrepreneurs" writing with zero qualifications or fact checking

[–] foggy 15 points 11 months ago

Step one: dominate SEO

Step two: paywall all content.

Step three: criticize the game.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] alienanimals 34 points 11 months ago

Wait till the HR world figures out their sole purpose is to protect corporations from actual human beings. God forbid they stop trying to pay people the least amount possible.

[–] jordanlund 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just saw that on Google maps yesterday. Had a laugh. Didn't go, though.

[–] jordanlund 2 points 11 months ago

Was it really near you though? :) I think I'd be obligated to at least go in and ask "HOW DID YOU KNOW??!?!?"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We have VERY different spice thresholds.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being in the "SEO industry". Lmao.

[–] _wizard 4 points 11 months ago
[–] paraphrand 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well. they don't like to hear that, Jan! /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

If it were for me to decide, they would be down in hiding. Cause being up in arms would mean legs broken, and also fingers or their hands to prevent further use of computer keyboards and mice.

Also an abbreviation which is expanded into "search engine optimization" by the very fscking name means that they are ruining the Internet, or the Web as its part, more precisely.

[–] woshang 6 points 11 months ago

Don't forget those ads on Twitter, Facebook, instagram, Youtube. They show you the product you viewed before, called re-targeting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Verge article, written by Amanda Chicago Lewis, is 8,000 words and starts with an anecdote about attending a search-engine optimization industry event that featured a live alligator.

A lot of what we see on the internet on a daily basis (this news site included) is shaped by efforts to appeal to Google's search algorithms.

But it turns out, they're nice people — not scammers — and perform a worthwhile service connecting websites to customers within a framework that Google has constructed.

Danny Sullivan, a former journalist and the founder of Search Engine Land — who's also a current Google employee — was also displeased.

Sullivan points out some minor errors (he had left Search Engine Land before he joined Google; The Verge story makes this more ambiguous).

One thing that's usually true is that subcultures of people, whether it's furries, pro-natalists, or Dimes Square reactionaries, don't like being written about as a group.


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