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Analysts criticise lack of detail about the ‘robotaxi’ showcased by CEO Elon Musk

Tesla shares fell nearly 9% on Friday, wiping about $60bn (£45bn) from the company’s value, after the long-awaited unveiling of its so-called robotaxi failed to excite investors.

Shares in the electric carmaker tumbled to $217 at market close following an event in Hollywood, where the chief executive, Elon Musk, revealed a much-hyped driverless vehicle. The stock price is down roughly 12% year-to-date.

However, analysts said the event was short on detail and also expressed disappointment over a lack of specifics about other Tesla projects. Musk has a history of making grand projections about upcoming products and failing to follow through in the timeframe he has set, or at all.

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[–] SloppyPuppy 3 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

“And all transport will be fully autonomous within 50 years.”

Bro even cold fusion reactors have less estimation than that.

[–] TastyWheat 11 points 1 hour ago

Tesla: "hay guys we invented the bus, but cyber"

[–] Cornpop 10 points 2 hours ago

Dude invented the city bus.

[–] Scolding7300 8 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

What problem does autonomous taxies solve that are worth this investment of possibly decades?

[–] lettruthout 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Really. Give me reliable public transportation instead.

[–] Fedizen 3 points 1 hour ago

the feds would have to start issueing grants for light rail like they do with roads for that to happen. Otherwise cities will always default to a free road over a paid train system

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

The dream of being the first to do it and corner the market for more of that sweet growth.

[–] Fedizen 1 points 1 hour ago

none. But they would have to be electric so that they don't lose fuel economy as 3x the number of cars on the road will 100% create traffic jams.

[–] cultsuperstar 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh please let us see Elon lose all his fucking money because he's a gigantic ass hat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

We can dream, now that he's tied his name to Trump it's not as unlikely as previously.

[–] affiliate 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

one of my old computer science professors said self driving cars “have been 5 years away for the past 20 years”. still rings true to this day

[–] Agent641 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Self driving cars and net positive fusion, same same

[–] roguetrick 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh nobody's predicting net positive fusion anytime soon. There's huge materials hurdles in both magnetic confinement and inertial confinement while also regenerating tritium. Neutron radiation just does not play nice.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Here’s a list of every time he has promised (lied about) full self driving for literally more than a decade.

https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/

[–] TriflingToad 10 points 8 hours ago

I imagine the robotaxi it gonna just be some really short person under the hood running super fast like the Flintstones with a steering wheel

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago

How is anyone believing this guy's shit after all this time?

[–] Gammelfisch 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Awe shucks. Tesla should boot out Dork MAGAT and bring back Eberhard and Tarpenning. When Leon leaves, then I will consider a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Bro. Just one more year bro. I swear bro. Just one more year and we'll have full self driving bro.

Don't lose faith bro. Or I'll sue you and call you a pedo guy.

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[–] Furbag 75 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It won't be $30k, it won't be full self driving, it won't be ready for production by by 2027, it won't replace all cars on the road by 2075.

It's shocking that people aren't calling him out on the fact that he also promised every Tesla on the road today would be capable of becoming a robotaxi, which was just an outrageous lie at the time and evidently they are no longer working towards making that plan a reality anymore if they're designing dedicated autonomous vehicles. Letting him pitch a new robotaxi idea feels like letting him get away not having to face any consequences for his blatant bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

No Tesla will, correct.

These cars will be available, just not where governments stand on the scale for industries that refuse to modernize or make vehicles that a lot of people actually want instead of another oversized SUV or truck with a grill taller than a tank.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Musk said the company would start building the fully autonomous “Cybercab” by 2026 at a price of less than $30,000, and showed off a van he claimed was capable of transporting 20 people around town autonomously – which he said would reshape cities by turning car parks into parks.

$30,000 for a fully autonomous bus?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He’s learned that if you put an (R) next to your name there are literally zero consequences for blatantly lying.

[–] Psythik 9 points 13 hours ago

Why is he even bothering when we already have Waymo? It already has full-self driving, and it works wonderfully. I use it to get rides to work when I'm too tired to drive. Just hop in, take a nap, and wake up at your destination. I trust it way more than any Uber/Lyft driver.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

The price is for yearly subscription

[–] ZILtoid1991 10 points 13 hours ago

At least the robovan looks like a vehicle from a dystopian cyberpunk movie, and the bad guy cops (that are of course working for a private police firm) are being ready to burst out from it to try to arrest the good guys.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This company will soon have zero value under our fearless leader Elon Musk.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

No one can ruin the Tesla name like someone taking credit for their underlings inventions.

[–] HighlyRegardedArtist 140 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Musk: "I have concepts of a car."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It might not be a particularly new insight, but I find it worth repeating anyway: Musk truly is the new Ford. Runs his own company in the ground and has a hard-on for fascists.

[–] AngryCommieKender 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

With a bit of Edison thrown in for good measure. He's constantly claiming to have invented things or founded companies that he had nothing to do with.

[–] linearchaos 4 points 13 hours ago

You'll also notice it's gold colored. Direct homage to trumps tastes.

[–] Sterile_Technique 56 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Even at face value, that's still a massive red flag coming Musk. He gave us a concept of the cybertruck that actually looked pretty badass; then delivered a vehicle straight out the Playstation 1. Any concept he pitches can be assumed to be complete bullshit.

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