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[–] [email protected] 145 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

while funny, it would cause me so many headaches either directly or indirectly that is completely cancels out

[–] EncryptKeeper 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It would cause me a large number of professional headaches but I still think it’ll be funnier than that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My company didn't jump on the .io bandwagon, so it would just be a bunch of random dead links.

So for me, it should be net funny.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm pretty sure our site uses a CDN that is .io so that going to be interesting.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago

One of our spinoff companies wants to act so badly like a start up and be edgy they moved everything to a .io domain. This would be icing on the cake for how cowboy they manage everything.

[–] Blaster_M 13 points 4 days ago

RIP itch.io

[–] Magister 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yes, there is laws, IANA says that ideally in 3-5 years all the .io will be gone, like the .yu ones, they do not exist anymore.

[–] coolmojo 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The .su domain is still active and the Soviet Union does not exist for more than 30 years now.

[–] Magister 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

yes because at the time they didn't know what to do, and gave .su to the .ru guys. For .yu it was also a little bit messy with multiple new countries wanting to control it. This is when IANA made laws to properly handle end of ccTLD like this, .yu does not exist anymore, it will be the same for .io

https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/su.html

https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/yu.html

[–] jj4211 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I doubt it. The cited precedent of .yu didn't have a ton of big international commercial interest, but .io does.

They will absolutely find a rationale to change what io means when ISO retires io. The "laws" will be tweaked, ignored, or loopholed around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

They're not laws anyway. They are just things that ICANN say. It's very easy to change the rules it's not like they have to be consulted on or anything

[–] guy 9 points 3 days ago

Really not looking forward to the idea of github.io links all becoming dead. So many repos with documentation at a github.io URL, with those links spread all across plaintext files and Stack Overflow and forums

[–] tigerjerusalem 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ this will be a major pain in the ass if it goes through... I'm really not in the mood of having to reconfigure all my self hosted services to a new domain.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do it anyway. Having anything behind a TLD that is tied to the political control of a tiny geographic area is insanely careless

[–] tigerjerusalem 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Maybe, but I had no idea this was tied to a country. I thought it was a novelty tld, like xyz and art. You know, like input/output so io.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

All two letter domains are country-code domains.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That assumption is exactly why tons of techbros jumped on it. But no, it's for the British Indian Ocean Territory. Roughly 23 square miles of islands all within pissing distance of each other south of India.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago

Considering my instance has .io domain, I hope not

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why not just let people have whatever suffix they want?

[–] EncryptKeeper 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They do, that’s why this is an issue in the first place. The purpose of ccTLDs is to host domains associated with a particular country. If the country stops existing, there’s no reason to use that country’s ccTLD. The problem is they let anyone register domains under this ccTLD even if they have no association with that country, hence the situation we’re in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually I believe you had to be a British national to register. Well at least you're supposed to be a British national I'm not sure how much they checked.

[–] EncryptKeeper 0 points 2 days ago

Zero checking. Anyone can register a .io. You can go register one right now in 5 minutes if you wanted.

[–] AA5B 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Some amount of organization is a good thing for many reasons. Think of an analogy to roads where basic traffic rules allow everyone the freedom to travel wherever and however but subject to the rules of locales. Feel free to pick your own domain within any generally recognized top level domain, according to the rules established by that tld.

In particular, two character top level domains are reserved for ownership by specific countries. They get to say who can have a presence there, under what standards, and they deserve any profit made from that. This was a way of giving everyone a voice, to expand it beyond the us, to give many interests their own home

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

I'm surprised it's not mentioned in the article, but also complicating this situation is the Chagos refugees seeking to take control of the TLD and/or receive reparations from the current registrar.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Nooo, what will become of my beloved fedia.io?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

RIP my @tuta.io email address lmao

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

fight for chagossian self-rule so that we can keep having .io addresses

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No.

Why would Mauritius turn down a source of revenue?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Because .io is the top level country code domain for the British Indian Ocean Territory, and once a country ceases to exist, the top level domain is supposed to be phased out according to the IANA rules and eventually discontinued by the ICANN.
There are no .yu, .dd, .cs, or .tp domains left. The only exception I know is .su (soviet union).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well they better make another damn exception.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The only reason .su still exists is because Russia said they would decommission it and then never did. ICANN chose not to let that happen again, which explains their choice to decommission the later ones.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

What the fuck is the point of decommissioning them entirely, though? What value does that do anybody? Is there another country waiting in the wings? There are 1500 TLD's already.

The obvious non-dickhead solution would be to transition the mgmt of .io from a ccTLD to a gTLD. "Rules" is not an answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

ccTLDs are pointless anyway. They always end up getting used in unexpected ways and it always causes problems. It doesn't do anyone any real benefit having them exist anyway. For example the US doesn't even use theirs.

The sensible thing to do would be to stop worrying about it and just let it carry on existing.

Even Google uses a ccTLD for that link shortener for YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole concept of "national" TLDs is proving to be a rather poor one in practice. Very few of them actually make sense in the way they're used.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That sounds more like an issue of enforcement than anything. If anyone can register a domain with your country's extension, it's not really your country's extension.

If we handled it properly, those domains would have value.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's plenty of non country domains too. Just make it into some acronym or have it mean I/O or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There are sure, but none are two letters because those are restricted to country codes. Specifically the ISO 3166-1 alpha 2

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

IIRC two letter domains are reserved for country specific domains, the non-country domains start with three letters.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Still, too much money on .io to be shutdown.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Maybe. But it's up to ICANN and their rules, money might not be relevant to them, and with .io, there literally isn't a single person or company that uses it "correctly" as country TLDs are primarily intended to be used by entities connected to that country, and the territory has no permanent residents, unlike with .su.
On the flip side, that might work for the case too as well - maybe ICANN decides to make it a generic TLD, like .com or .org instead as it's not really directly connected to a country?
We shall see.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

as country TLDs are primarily intended to be used by entities connected to that country

Primarily, sure, but quite a few of them get abused, check the notes column. A glaring one these days is .ai, as are youtu.be and, of course, goatse.cx.

[–] billiam0202 15 points 5 days ago

Tuvalu make around $10 million a year- about one-sixth of their gdp- from licensing .tv.

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