solarpunk memes

Leviticus Its in the pick and choose portion of the king james opinion of the bible.

No-good lazy workshy people stealing food from hardworking wasps 🤬🤬🤬🤬

We call them pavements in the UK and I kinda think sidewalk is more descriptive. You walk on the side of the road.

This sounded plausible until she said they poured bleach on the ground. Then it had the smell of bullshit.

It's worth keeping in mind though, if you want to feed people: we can just do that, we have the food and we have the infrastructure. Every person going hungry in a city with edible food in bins, produce discarded for not looking right and so on is going hungry because of policy decisions.

It is cheaper, healthier, and more successful to just distribute the food we already grow, make and transport than trying to turn everything into an orchid.

It's not terrible, but it's also not great. Fruit trees by their nature produce just mountains of fruit for a single tree. I came from a large farming family and we had a few fruit trees. So much of it ends up on the ground and rotting (which, not so bad since it was in a field, a nightmare if it were in the suburbs).

If you really want one, you NEED to maintain the tree. That means cutting branches to make sure the tree doesn't grow up and instead grows out. It also means constant maintenance to make sure branches aren't overloaded (growing out means they have a higher risk of breaking).

Regular trees are already a PITA to take properly maintain, fruit trees are another level.

And even with all that, you'll still end up with a bunch of rotting fruit on the ground. Birds, insects, etc will nibble at your fruits. You'll simply miss the 50 fruit the ripened early or late. It's just going to be a headache no matter what you do.

And it's a lot of fruit. 1 tree can easily make enough fruit for 20 people. That comes in all at once.

Lemon stealing whore.

I live in Canberra, Australia and we also have an excellent climate for olives and lemons. Apples and practically all citrus also do well and plums and other stone fruit grow like topsi. Figs too.

Deep inland, 600m elevation

We need to protect many of our fruit trees from birds, but not olives, apples, or citrus

You're thinking about indigenous groups that farmed parts of the Amazon. You want a rabbit hole? Google Terra preta. See you in a few years ;)

Public trees already have a maintenance schedule and budget, public fruit trees don't need to be about filling hungry people, they're just as much about finding small moments of joy in your community.

Also trees that bear fruit usually don't produce as much pollen in spring so it would cut down on hayfever, they do drop more seed which can be messier if planted along sidewalks. That's the main reason decorative public trees are often male, 40 years ago civic planners decided pollen was easier to deal with than seed drop.

I have an apple tree in my yard. It needs to be pruned and thinned at appropriate times. Sometimes pest control is required, but that's pretty much it. If done properly, it is a couple of hours of work per year max

No offense to you personally, but I hate this kind of premature defeatism. Like... yeah, some people are jerks and try to take advantage of things. Put rules in place and enforce them as much as the people in charge care to.

I know it's strawmanning to bring this up, but people use the same argument to say "We shouldn't have food stamps for hungry kids or welfare for needy families or subsidized housing for people without homes because people will abuse it. Yeah. Some people will, and others will suffer because of their greed. But so many more people will continue to suffer if we don't even try because we are too scared of The Undeserving boogeyman. Not every tree will be taken advantage of, and as the sense of outreach and community grows, abuse of it will fall and it will be worth it. I guarantee it...

Plant enough so they can't make a profit.

Visit Portland. Lots of neighborhoods grow fruit trees.

And the fruit falls to the ground.

Nobody is going around selling them.

I believe it happened I’ve had many insane conversations with people like this.

Like food banks and people will say well what if people that don’t need it go there. I’m like so what, if 1 in a 1000 abuses a system it doesn’t mean we should make the 999 suffer by removing it.

I only care when a single individual or group picks all of the fruit from the public trees just so that they can sell it down the road and profit from it.

This is the result of a century of propaganda and destruction of public spaces