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It's very close to the election, but this is a good filing wrt what is actually happening here, shame that it'll likely only matter when Harris gets in office, since trump can just throw it out if he becomes president, and it'll not matter anymore then.
Thank you very much for the link. Some of this is really good reading. I liked this bit.
(Elsewhere in the filing, P26 is described as the Georgia Attorney General and P4 as Senior Campaign Advisor)
Is this the one that Trump wanted to be massively redacted? And Jack Smith said "We should only redact the names of witnesses and other persons not already identified"?
Actually, here's the awesome and ironic part - Jack Smith wanted this to all be under seal, Judge Chutkan disagreed and took Donald's older request to have the previous filings only redacted for sensitive info, like witness names, and had the rest be publicly available.
Of course now Donald didn't want this one to be public, lol. Can't have it both ways, Diaper Don.
No, Smith's desire was only to redact names of persons in this oversized filing, nothing else.
You're not quite correct, It's actually much more nuanced than that. I'll reply as soon as I'm off work and can put the right amount of effort into it.
EDIT - Here's where your reply is incorrect -
Trump says it would be unfair to air this info before the election because he has a gag order, and because the government wants to release everything and Trump isn't allowed to say anything. Judge Chutkan said that none of that is true - the gag order doesn't say that, and the government's position was ACTUALLY that they wanted to seal everything in this case a year ago when they were going over the protective order to determine what to release to the public. At that time, Jack Smith wanted to seal ALL the sensitive AND non-sensitive evidence. Trump opposed this and stated that there needed to be transparency and that the public needed to see the information (because he wanted to get the witness list down in florida). Back then Judge Chutkan ruled that only sensitive material should be redacted, ruling against Jack Smith's desire to redact EVERYTHING. Judge Chutkan's reasoning here was that for transparency reasons, the public had the right to see the non-sensitive material, which at the time Trump saw as a win for him.
Trump has now changed his position on this, since August of last year. Jack Smith wanted it all sealed, Trump wanted it all public, arguing that the sealing of it would violate his first amendment rights (because he wanted to use the evidence to intimidate witnesses and try the case in the court of public opinion). Now he wants it all under seal because there's an election coming. Judge Chutkan replied that "defendent's concern with the political consequences of these proceedings does not bear on the pre-trial schedule - what needs to happen before or shouldn't happen before the election is not relevant."
So, because she ruled on Trump's behalf in this case back in August, same rules apply now. She ruled against Jack Smith's ask to seal everything - he wanted ALL info redacted in his original request.
So, again I will say, you don't get it both ways Diaper Don!
I got this information from former FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe and Dr. Allison Gill on the Jack podcast, Episode 96.
You're talking about what happened a year ago. I'm talking about what happened in the last few weeks. Smith wanted only to redact the names of people or organizations that weren't previously identified for this motion.
What you're talking about is irrelevant, because the judge will operate in a manner that is consistent with her original ruling, and that insulates her from pushback or criticism. What happened a year ago is directly relevant here because it set the outcome.
LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK HIM UP!!
LOCK HIM THE FUCK UP ALREADY, Like seriously what the fuck? !!!
WHAT THE FUCK!
WHAT THE FUCK!!
In addition to outlining the instances when Trump was directly corrected about his allegations of voter fraud, the filing said Trump privately called allegations of voter fraud made by his lawyer Sidney Powell as "crazy" -- despite employing similar arguments to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election, prosecutors allege.
Not that any of this evidence will matter. A third of our country has poisoned brains and won’t even address it.
Trump's lawyers opposed Wednesday's lengthy filing -- which they described as "tantamount to a premature and improper Special Counsel report" -- and argued that public release of the allegations would improperly influence the election and violate Department of Justice policies. Judge Chutkan -- who has long stated that the election does not play a factor in her decision making -- ordered the filing be publicly released Wednesday.
HOW IS IT NOT ELECTION INTERFERENCE TO NOT RELEASE IT??
Seriously, not releasing it would hide necessary information that voters should be given to make an informed decision.
Also, that dumb fuck is the reason it got pushed this close to the election, so it serves him right.
Any other person would be in guantonamo bay for half the shit he's pulled
But butt buttery males!!
Naw. Gitmo has too much scrutiny. and it's a bit old. They got other blacksites with way more privacy and way more interesting.... "activities".
People like trump don't get sent to places like that, and it's fucked up that we have torture complexes and people are cool with that.
Yeah, I don't condone torture sites. Just pointing put that anybody else would be in one.
Even the factual proffer section on page 3 and 4 is insane, and should and would be immediately disqualifying in any other universe
JD Isn't here to talk about the past so Jack Smith will talk about it for h im.
Lock up this desperate weirdo already.
DOJ: Best I can do is drag this out until he dies of vigilantism or old age.
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