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It was 35 years ago, not hard to believe that he just slightly misremembers it. People could still have been warning him not to go in August.

Who gives a shit?

JD Vance said he didn’t attend the 2024 Erotic Couch and Pathological Liar Symposium. Not true.

Okay so neither the CNN article or this article says that they've independently confirmed the reports/when the pictures in the articles were taken which i think is important but most importantly, this was 1989. He was 2-3 months off. This is likely just him misremembering from 35 years ago. He should have said he was there "around" tiananmen square but does that really matter much? CNN heard from a source close to Walz that said “the point Gov. Walz is making when he discusses this is that some folks in the World Teach program discussed dropping out after Tiananmen Square, but he continued on with the program because he believed it was important for the Chinese people to learn about American democracy and American history.” which makes sense.

CNN also said he has exaggerated the amount of trips he took to China saying 30 times once and dozens and dozens another time. They reached out to the Harris campaign who said it was likely closer to 15. When you go to a country that many fucking times it's not surprising to lose count. It's not like you're counting it. It's not hard to lose track. My mom has been to Greece tons of time to visit family but could she say how many times she's been there? Nope. She'd generalize because that's how that goes.

But of course we have to be pedantic and "fact check" this because it's important to be fair and who cares if we ignore some of the shitty things trump said during his rallies or how he's obviously mentally deteriorating, obviously Walz misremembering is so much more important. And obviously this shows it's a big scandal because earlier this year the news said that he said he carried weapons in war and he never served in combat even though he said he carried weapons of war during the war while he was stationed in the European theater. Which is accurate, but did the media care that's what he said? Nope. Walz isn't a consistent liar like Trump and Vance but sure let's equivocate them and Walz.

Couchfucker makes up lies about immigrants exposing them to violence and this is what you think needs fact-checking?

Sweet sweet New York times going for the hard shitting stories.

Trying to remember what I was doing between April and August 1989... I think that would have been the end of my first year as a Freshman in college? Not sure, super blurry.

He was off by two months 35 years ago?!! HOW DARE HE!!!

Contemporaneous news reports in Nebraska indicated that Mr. Walz was still in his home state during the spring and did not leave for China until August.

Any link to these contemporaneous news reports?

Who gives a shit.

Contemporaneous news reports in Nebraska indicated that Mr. Walz was still in his home state during the spring and did not leave for China until August.

That doesn't sound like certainty to me. So how strong are those indications?
Maybe Walz remembers it wrong, the incident would still be very recent, and the warning sincere about not going to mainland.
But it could also be he remembers correctly, and the "indications" are wrong.

No matter which, it doesn't really matter if it was 2 months later or not. It was definitely at around that time.

This serves as a great reminder that Tim Walz is…..wait for it…..a politician!

Seems to me he convinced himself it happened this way and just kept telling the story. It’s a pretty relatable thing to do actually, but yeah, he was in China the same year, but not during Tiananmen.

This is not the same kind of lie that Trump and Vance tell, but it’s still not the truth. Fortunately many of his supporters can hold two truths in their head at the same time: Walz is a politician who sometimes lies a little, and Walz has more integrity in his pinky finger than Trump and Vance have combined.