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[–] TomMasz 121 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Perhaps the women are tired of misogynistic religions telling them they're inferior.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

More likely that some young men see "traditional family values" as the only way to get respect and get laid.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Get obeyed and laid. Not sure the respect is really there

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Idk that a lot of people know/understand the difference to be honest.

Edit: difference between obedience and respect

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Or even the corollary, that the Abrahamic religions grant authority to men, so men who feel as though they command no authority flock to the religions to achieve it.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not a surprising statistic.

Women seem to be sick of being treated as a "mom you can fuck", and the younger generation's men seem to be more right-wing.

[–] PugJesus 56 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

and the younger generation’s men seem to be more right-wing.

Only in terms of the relative gender gap. Gen Z men are still less right-wing than Millennial men (who, in turn, are pretty liberal compared to prior generations)

[–] themeatbridge 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Religious boomers are kicking themselves for ending the use of lead paint.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think the supreme court kneecapped the EPA?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Im convinced we will have our own behavioral reckoning with microplastics eventually. These things don't just do nothing. There will be a trend of changes it causes and that trend will be discovered sooner or later.

[–] themeatbridge 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are gathering in our reproductive organs and reducing birth rates. That, and kids are being more responsible means we probably will have a population collapse at some point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Major demographic collapse is already happening around the world, it's just that it happens in very, very slow motion. You can see examples of just how slow-motion by looking at Japan and South Korea, or China with the ripple effects of the one-child policy only now starting to be observed en masse. Same with many countries in Europe, like Italy and Greece. The US would be experiencing it in slow motion right now, but we make up for the difference through immigration.

[–] Feathercrown 2 points 2 weeks ago

It would be pretty funny if microplastics had a positive effect on our bodies. It would be an interesting moral dilemma.

[–] ieatpwns 37 points 2 weeks ago

Religion casts women as second class breeders and men as the dominant second to only god leader so it makes sense to me why men are more and women less relegious

[–] SGGeorwell 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if this is related to the falling college enrollment for young men. I’m just speculating.

[–] damnedfurry 9 points 2 weeks ago

Would be very surprised if that wasn't at least a factor, there is definitely at least correlation there, if not causation.

[–] Valmond 28 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe it's the orher way around, young women are (even) less religious than young men...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are in the midst of a huge generational shift right now. These trends especially among young adults will likely start changing one way or the other. I am going to guess that as some of these young men find female partners they will likely become less religious. I am thinking in a few years we will see this right twist of young men disappear with the gender gap shrinking towards a more leftist direction

[–] Feathercrown 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We need women to be confident and assertive in their personal lives to not have them go the other way and accept their male partner's views. Here's hoping! I think it's possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Part of the trend of ditching organized religion is moving past what you were taught to critically think. That is a step in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

The post-incel reactionary trad movement is just getting started. I just hope that there's less men into it that it seems and they are just very noisy, because if not then we are about to get bitten on the ass like we have no idea. I do fear for future society.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

I think this article misleadingly states what the stats show.

Each American generation is less religious than the older generations, and Gen Z is no different. It's just that Gen Z women are far less religious than previous generations, a bigger gap than the men. From the study that provides the underlying stats:

What’s remarkable is how much larger the generational differences are among women than men. Gen Z men are only 11-points more religiously unaffiliated than Baby Boomer men, but the gap among women is almost two and a half times as large. Thirty-nine percent of Gen Z women are unaffiliated compared to only 14 percent of Baby Boomer women. 

In other words, Gen Z men are less religious than Boomer men. This basic conclusion doesn't seem to come through in the original article, which almost suggests that young men are more religious than older generations.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

All religion is bad and should only exist privately. Get religion out of politics. It is cynically used to manipulate the electorate.

[–] drunkpostdisaster 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Donjuanme 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or your gender is the one that benefits from religion more, and is slower to leave the safety of the shallow pool.

[–] drunkpostdisaster 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Donjuanme 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've always tried showing the people in my life of religious persuasion that atheism or secular humanism are not what the religious leaders and politicians attempt to paint them as.

I don't feel the need to advocate outright, push my beliefs, or bash others beliefs because we are going in the right direction, and religion only gets older and more porous. Fight for the free transfer of information and religion will have fewer and fewer shadows to hide in.

[–] FuglyDuck 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dunno.

On one hand, yeah. We shouldn’t mock anyone.

But I’m an imperfect being and YECs make it so hard to resist. “Dino fossil ages are fake to sow doubt so that we can have free will,” is just so hard to not make fun of.

[–] drunkpostdisaster -1 points 2 weeks ago

Good luck with that as fewer men are involved in education in any way

[–] Feathercrown 9 points 2 weeks ago

Hmm, curious, I wonder how on Earth that could've happened...