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Need at least the camera, if not that plus a microphone and speakers, not the lock or bell.

Libre Software (Obviously) + End-to-End Encryption

Small and easy to hide, so the camera isn't stolen, attacked or bypassed.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Unpopular opinion: an actual doorbell.

[–] autonomoususer 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Add (offline, regular) camera.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

add a vandal proof camera on top

[–] autonomoususer 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ops. Missed the actual details. Sorry. How small you want it to be? Any dimentions?

[–] autonomoususer 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No specific measurements.

https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-pan

Something like this which has a privacy mode where it rotates and hides could be good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Vandal proof camera is easy to find, but with privacy mode? I don't think such product exist yet.

[–] autonomoususer 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I literally just linked an example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's not vandal proof. What I mean by vandal proof is IK rated, like IK10.

Best I can find is https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/IP-Products/PTZ-Cameras/Value-Series/ds-2de2a404iw-de3-w-s6-/

You will have to set the camera pointing default to a non sensitive area, likely ground if you mount it directly above your doorbell, and only tilt up when it get some event triggers like motion (feet), audio (it does have a mic), doorbell (via home assistant), other cameras (mition alerts), or something else.

[–] autonomoususer 1 points 2 weeks ago

I see, thank you!

[–] spankmonkey 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I can't remotely see if an important package was delivered with a regular doorbell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If that is a big problem, one alternative is to get a post office box.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's seems like a good idea, considering the plethora of videos online of packages being stolen with an obvious camera watching the thieves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I also can't see who took my package with a regular doorbell. But apparently having security cameras on your property is dystopian surveillance.

[–] spankmonkey 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Having security cameras that malicious businesses sell so they can scrape your data and share video with the police without your informed consent is a dystopian nightmare.

Having your own security system that is only accessed by you and those you intentionally share it with is not.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I think that is the normal choice

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You want Reolink + Frigate

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, I have this too. Works fine.

[–] autonomoususer 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Cameras seem too big and obvious, easy to attack.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have a doorbell: https://reolink.com/__/product/reolink-video-doorbell/

It doesn't really get smaller than that.

[–] autonomoususer 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, I see, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can use a Wyze Video Doorbell 1 and flash it with thingino firmware. Then hook it up to a Frigate home surveillance server.

[–] autonomoususer 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, looks good, thank you!

Will that run on a Pi? Can it shut off when I'm at home?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Frigate can definitely run on a Pi. It can also integrate with Home Assistant which can run on a Pi. As for turning itself off when you're home, I don't know.

[–] autonomoususer 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Best answer, thanks again!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help out

[–] hperrin 2 points 2 weeks ago

Reolink has a local encrypted video doorbell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I use Eufy doorbells, locks, and cameras. I realize they are a Chinese company, but that is almost unavoidable until the US gets back to actually manufacturing tech.

The reason I like Eufy is the local storage and no required subscription fees.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't this the company that not only got busted for uploading continuous footage but got caught publicly exposing that footage to anyone with VLC?

I if I am remembering correctly you should throw away the device immediately

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I use eufy as well. The only issue they recently had was that thumbnails were stored in their cloud if you chose to enable them on notifications. If you just select the text option, none of the footage is stored online and everything is local.

[–] autonomoususer 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Harder for China than the US to attack in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Here's a very similar question I asked here a few months ago: "Privacy respecting ring doorbell" https://lemm.ee/post/8165932

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Been hunting for the same thing for years

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] autonomoususer 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That won't record attackers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It might contribute in some small aesthetic way to deterring them, which seems a much better ambition.

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