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Now that it seems decided that the word "weird" should be used in a derogatory way against sociopathic narcissists in politics, I have to be careful about how i use this word.

In the recent years, I usually used it to describe someone or something that was different in an interesting and charming way. I am neurodivergent in a way that is easily hidden (not that I make coucious efforts to hide it), I would often describe myself as just "slightly weird". I no longer want to use this word to describe myself anymore because of the above mentioned reasons.

In old literature, I've seen the word queer used as such, but today it doesn't really carry that meaning anymore. Although I wouldn't really mind if it confused people about my gender, I don't really worry about that. 😁

Any other suggestions ro help describe myself that wouldn't put the focus of the discussion on neurotypes?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Alteon 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weird can be good...sometimes, depending on the context.

[–] NickwithaC 11 points 1 month ago

This is how all words become squanch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

For real. Keep using weird.

I'm tired seeing politicians talk about everything but their actual policies. Hope they actually say stuff of substance like oh I don't know their policies?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"weird" is an effective way to shut down right-wing nutjobs because they care too much about conformity, and are likely to change their behaviour if they believe they are going against the will of the herd. it undermines their whole 'silent majority' schtick.

all this to say, i'm autistic, i'm weird, and i don't think that this new strategic use of the word in politics should mean you shouldn't use it in other ways too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that makes sense. It's not so much that they are labeled weird, but that they are shocked thinking they were not...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd argue that weird isn't being used as an insult, but to state that the bullies are in fact not representing the norm. They are outside the norm but pretend to be normal, they insist on being normal - which makes it weird. It's not an insult to us, but it is an insult to them. Which makes it funny.

Fascists believe in inequality based on identity, while we kinda thought we had this already sorted that we all believe in equality now. Like all people created equal. But their need to define an identity as superior and then attacking anybody outside the norm is being used against them. And it IS weird to do that, most people simply don't care if you're a little weird. We still have to learn to be more tolerant to more weirdness and not react with biases or irrational emotions. Respect weirdness.

So weird isn't being used as an insult but as a way to rob them of their power - their attempt to define a new normal. And their arguments and attacks against anyone else are becoming increasingly bizarre, less founded in reality, absurd claims. Comical. Weird.

There is the metaphor about slowly cooking a frog without him noticing, shifting the overton window. Weird sort of resets that. It is more an attack on what they DO than what they are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Nice, that makes sense. I'll keep using weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Very well said

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quirky, unique, eccentric, remarkable, mystifying, fantastic, unconventional, offbeat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if you're referring to yourself I'd prefer 'quirky' because it has less of a self-aggrandizing quality to it. More neutral per se

Eccentric, mystifying, unconventional, and offbeat all have varying levels of 'polite judgment' or condescension inherent to them so should be used carefully when referring to others.

Unique, remarkable, and fantastic are the more complimentary versions.

[–] TheTechnician27 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think "quirky" as a self-descriptor got pretty heavily stigmatized during the 2010s, though. Like if someone self-identifies as "quirky", the first thing that comes to my mind is the *holds up spork* copypasta. I actually personally really like offbeat, as long as you use a modifier like "a bit".

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eccentric Al Yankovic just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Skibidi Yankovic

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see why it can't be an insult for them and a compliment for me. Just like gay was for years. I'm weird and I'm proud.

[–] naught101 4 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. They can't use it back.

[–] braindefragger 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This concern feels unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup. A lot of feelings are unnecessary yet are there anyway for us to deal with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

No. All feelings contribute to you in some way or another.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago
[–] IndiBrony 17 points 1 month ago

I'm still quite happy using weird in a positive light. I feel context is always important for a word. Plenty of words have double meanings depending on context.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Are you literally going out of your way to deliberately remove any positive connotation from a word in order to try and artificially manufacture a slur?

Pretty weird.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Go Victorian with it. Perfectly Peculiar.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  • Eccentric
  • β€œA wide variety of interests”
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Eccentric is a good alternative.

[–] Zachariah 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great discussion about this topic here: https://sopuli.xyz/post/15705393

… if someone is called weird and they agree with you, they are the good weird, but if you call them weird and they get defensive/aggressive they are the bad weird …

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hehe, I'll have a read on that thread.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

'Quaint' is a delightful word for the positively weird

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It usually implies it's weird in an old-fasioned way though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quirky is definitely the best fit, if you are worried about an ambiguous context using a descriptor.

Still, don't discard weird as a word altogether like a slur so quickly. "Keep Portland Weird", "Weird Al Yankovic", still describes stuff that are a little unusual but cool to be around, and the fact that this word comes up in the context of US politics shouldn't remove one of the word's many meanings.

A guy at a bar who always shows up with round sunglasses and a tie dye shirt, ordering a glass of milk is the cool kind of weird. A guy who spends all their time talking about themselves are the annoying antisocial kind of weird. Someone who sits next to a washroom staring at the ass of every person going in and out of it is the creep kind of weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I was just thinking about "quirky" because my sister-in-law recently used it to describe her daughter. Her contrasting word (for her son) was "straightforward."

Personally, I fit the former even though I've learned to "pass for normal." NOT my words. That was a direct quote and it was meant as a compliment. Weird is definitely meant as an insult in the US Midwest.

[–] Aethr 6 points 1 month ago

I use "funky" a lot to mean weird in a good way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

There is good weird and bad weird, no harm in calling someone good weird. If you really want alternatives: Quirky, Unusual, eccebtric, interesting. However and such word can also be an insult in the right context

[–] Lycist 6 points 1 month ago

Just call yourself a silly goose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Eccentric, unusual, unique, interesting, intriguing. IDK check any thesaurus.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

"Delightful".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

No need for a new word. Weird means "out of the norm" , which one can wear as a badge of honor at the same time as using it to point out that MAGA does not align with everyday Americans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

A tad perplexing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

eccentric is the aristocratic weird. its my go to

[–] robocall 3 points 1 month ago
[–] fubo 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Idiosyncratic works as well. Maybe better in some instances. But it also has a bit of an upright or pejorative quality that weird refreshingly lacks.

[–] Num10ck 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Outlandish, bizarre, unusual, strange, unique, uncanny, queer (this one has extra connotations but has been reclaimed)

[–] tills13 2 points 1 month ago

If something is positively weird I typically just call it "interesting" though it won't work in all instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Difference enthusiast is fun.

As someone who has identified specifically as 'weird' or a 'weirdo', I'm happy to keep using the term. I don't think anyone's going to confuse my queer-esque anti-heirarchical neurodivergency for whatever the fuck is wrong with those fascist assholes.

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