9/11 enabled so much of this to be fast-tracked. Thanks, Patriot Act.
this post was submitted on 26 May 2024
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Have you read Means of Control (Byron Tau)? He tracks the evolution of all of this and how we got to where we are today. Yes, 9/11 fast-tracked it but there's so much more to it. Highly recommended.
Thanks for the rec, I have not read it. It sounds like something I would enjoy, so I’ll check it out!
nobody has talked about it for years
There are rumblings here in CO about curtailing law enforcement's use of this database. I personally would like to have subpoena protection of the database, so at least it has to go before a judge before the cops just rifle through everyone's pictures.
This is especially concerning given that citizens are recently being required to update their ID to a “Real ID,” which means more people than ever before are giving away the rights to their own face.
lol, no. Real ID is just a set of requirements the federal govt. has implemented to make sure state IDs are held to the same standard as passports re: data integrity and information presented. That's all. Not mark of the beast, not something nefarious to track you more than your old state-issued DL did in the past. As far as "recently"? Nope, states have had 20 years.
What can we even do to fight the privacy practices of giants?
Not much unless you're a billionaire or a politician.
Donate to eff, aclu, and other privacy organizations.
I mean it's not nothing but it's close
It's better than not doing anything.
I'm not sure it is. Feels like a waste of money. People don't care. Politicians don't care. In fact they greatly benefit from the erosion of privacy.
ACLU has done a lot of good. For instance, their lawyers have fought to not give up Signal users' information in court cases.
ACLU has done a lot of good
I don't doubt it, but at the end of the day it's a drop in the bucket vs. the wide variety of increasingly exploitative platforms that people continue to use.
The government doesn't even need surveillance, they just demand it from corporations with data that users knowingly and willingly volunteer to them, to the extent that you can't even participate in society without subjecting yourself to those same invasive and exploitative platforms.
their lawyers have fought to not give up Signal users' information
What information? How can they give information they don't have?
They're literally lobbiests and have a track record of forcing the government to make great changes for the people
They're literally lobbiests
Huh?
have a track record of forcing the government to make great changes
And yet here we are...constantly sliding downhill, regardless...
The EFF and ACLU employ a number of people, and some of those people exist to lobby the government to not make dumb laws.
Politicians don't understand technology, so they need lobbiests to explain to them how legislation could be bad for people from a technical perspective
When you fund the EFF, you get lobbiests on your behalf going to legislators to fix broken legislation. And lobbyists going to legislators to write good legislation to protect our rights.
I'm very aware of all of this, and none of it contradicts my statement.
I was answering your question: Huh?
Please tell me something I don't already know.
Or you’re willing to immolate a billionaire or a politician, as long as it’s a sincerely held religious belief.
You're going to set them on fire?
~~Abso-fucking-lutely.~~ I mean, no, not me personally.
Ok well I wouldn't really recommend saying as much on the internet...
Good point, let me fix that.
Nailed it.
How about a guillotine? Those don't seem to require a religious belief, only a modicum of trust in the well-studied force of gravity.
Vote pirate party
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I don't think Billionaires even get an exception. It actually might be worse for them in some ways.
I meant that they hold the resources and the influence necessary to change society.
I kind of mentally prepared for it when I got my ID. Not only that but they also fingerprint your right thumb.
Just renewed my ID on Friday and I went for the Real ID. No fingerprinting. So it must differ by state.
Interesting. I'm in California
This is especially concerning given that citizens […]
Not everyone with a US driver’s license is a US citizen.
Correct, however this issue primary affects US citizens, given that driver's licenses aren't the only ID the DMV takes pictures for (e.g. the aforementioned Real ID)
Non-citizens also use driver’s licenses and state IDs with Real ID. It’s standard regardless of citizenship.
They also contract a company that trains facial recognition AI on social media. I think the Real ID is the least if most people's worries
Jokes on them, they made me take off my glasses that hide aspects of my wonky face but I wear glasses 100% of the time out in the world. You'll never catch me, copper!
(I know. I just like to think it can't figure out crooked nose vs glasses. )
Every DMV photo in the United States is being used for AI facial recognition
I'm glad I don't have a US driving license then.
in the next few years Copilot will simply become a part of people’s lives
Only those who don't care about privacy and use Windows.
Only those who don't care about privacy and use Windows.
So most people, then.
Do you have a passport?
Yeah, that dumbass doesn't realize the EU has been using passport photos to allow Interpol to build a database since back in 2010.
Not just Europe either. 172 countries use NFC passports, all of which have your full biometric info (including a high res headshot) encoded onto the chip.
If you've ever had a passport your face is known to the government of your country and searchable in a database.