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[–] neatchee 68 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (39 children)

OK but there are actually great uses for blockchain that are completely disconnected from anything you typically see

For example, banks may begin using blockchain for maintaining their internal ledgers. It will help solve a ton of issues around reconciling the transactions from all over the globe

Blockchain has reasonable uses. Really good ones. Crypto and nft bros just completely ruined the image of it

EDIT: I love all the comments demonstrating how little people understand about blockchain. Bitcoin was not the first blockchain, nor is its design the only type of blockchain. Assuming that all blockchain looks like the crypto/nft paradigm is just showing your ignorance.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5nzx4/what-was-the-first-blockchain

[–] [email protected] 118 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Blockchain is only potentially useful if there’s no single entity that can be trusted. If banks can’t even trust themselves to manage their own internal ledgers, they have much bigger problems to deal with.

[–] TragicNotCute 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Trustless systems aren’t a bad thing that has to step in when the good thing fails. Trustless systems are inherently better because you don’t have to trust a bank (or anyone for that matter).

Additionally, ledgers can be gamed/corrupted/falsified. This is significantly more complex (bordering on impossible) on the blockchain.

https://youtu.be/bBC-nXj3Ng4

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are often easier, more reliable, and far cheaper ways to achieve the same things without using a blockchain. Some of the principles are even used in normal web browsing to ensure secure untampered connections.

Blockchain just solves a subproblem that only arises when there’s no appointed central entity.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cryptocurrency Ledgers can be corrupted?

[–] TragicNotCute 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was hedging against a particularly snarky commenter showing up. You can do a 51% attack and theoretically corrupt it. In practice, that’s much more difficult.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You dont need 51% attack to corrupt a ledger. Just enter incorrect info and the ledger is wrong. Not a damn thing a blockchain can do about that. Same issue is with any trustless system where you have to trust someone to input the correct info/do the agreed thing/ship the ordered physical item.

[–] QuaternionsRock 3 points 7 months ago

Just enter incorrect info and the ledger is wrong.

The concept behind cryptocurrency is that the ledger is the info, because you’re right, a half-assed blockchain ledger used for external (e.g. cash) transactions doesn’t really solve the root problem. Proof of work is fucking stupid though, and it has (rightfully) ruined the perception of blockchain technology among those who can see past their own crypto wallet.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Blockchain has been around as a technology for nearly two decades. If financial institutions thought it could help them you can bet they would be all-in on it by now. As it is, blockchain has no significant advantages over traditional financial ledger systems, so what incentive is there for them to use it.

It's not something new or cutting edge any more, just waiting for a bright spark to discover the technology and put it to use.

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[–] kameecoding 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (17 children)

How is the blockchain different from a read only ( write only once to be specific) DB that follows ACID?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 4 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Blockchains add cryptographic signing and limit actions based on those signatures.

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[–] Blue_Morpho 15 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Why would you want the computational power of a bank system have anything to do with whether it's ledger is correct?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Yeah let’s use the computing power of an entire country to pay for a small coffee.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

While that is an inherent component of how proof-of-work cryptos work, and utterly stupid, it's not an inherent part of how to do blockchains.

You can have a blockchain without consuming stupid amounts of energy.

[–] kameecoding 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's called a database....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There aren’t a lot of distributed databases with no single owner and all writes are signed.

[–] kameecoding 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, but not having an owner is actually a fucking terrible thing for a banking system, how do you not grasp this?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (19 children)

How do you see memes like this? Because I see them as lame and sad, especially since we have been seeing them for 10+ years now and they are still the same. But apparently you think blockchain has reasonable uses.

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