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Inspired by a question I saw a while back, is it possible to make my data/online presence useless/undesirable to companies to purchase?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is just my opinion, but I don't think so. I love the thought and wish there was, though. I think no matter what you do, it's still information about a potential user/customer and still tells someone looking at it about you. "Oh, we have information on about 4% of the population that wants to actively subvert our data analytics.". Obviously that's made up, I didn't bother trying to even guess what a potentially realistic number might be.

Again in my opinion, the only way to provide no value to data analytics is to not be a data point, and good luck with that. Best I've been trying to do is disable targeted ads anywhere I can, reset my identifier ids regularly on things like android tv where I can, and try to blast cookies anywhere possible. I don't know if it even makes a difference or just makes me feel better

[–] Delphia 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Its super unpopular on Reddit and even less popular on here but... Have my data, i dont give a fuck.

What are you going to find out? I'm a straight white man approaching middle-age. I'm into DIY, cars that were cool 20 years ago, music that was cool 20 years ago, cooking on my bbq and trying desperately to avoid becoming old AND fat. I'm wearing New Balance runners and cargo shorts RIGHT NOW. I've become a complete caricature of a "Dad".

You think you can find some embarrassing shit with my porn history? Nope, Ill tell you what my jam is for free. I dont care.

I'm already tighter with my money than a dolphins asshole. Put the prices up, I just wont buy it. I'm on a playthrough of a 22yo videogame on a pc I built with second hand parts because fuck paying $130 for a brand new AAA title.

What are "they" going to mine from me?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the answer. Clarity and frugality. It doesn’t matter that they can make accurate predictions of your interests if you simply never click.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

they wouldn't spend millions on ads if people were immune to them

[–] Delphia 5 points 1 year ago

The expression "a fool and his money will soon be parted" or a variation of that was first published in 1573.

"A foole & his money, be soone at debate: which after with sorow, repents him to late."

If you cant go on facebook without buying some T-shirt for $40 because some targeted add knows you're all about Pickle Rick right now. The problem isnt targeted advertisement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You basically described the other half of me right here. I waffle back and forth between your view and trying to do something about it. I go back to feeling it's futile and doesn't matter anyway, before getting fed up with targeted ads again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[–] Delphia 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm aware of it, thats how I fight back.

Ive needed new day to day runners for months, the inner heel is shredded and the soles have very little tread but I havent seen anything I like on a decent sale yet. I know the prices on most of the shit I want and on all the shit I need.

Now my facebook regularly shoves adds for shoes at me 365 days a year. The last pair of new all purpose runners/training shoes I bought retailed for $150 - $200, I saw a targeted advertisement for 25% off and I clicked on it and I got a pair thats usually $160 for $120 did they win or did I win?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd say they did, nobody actively advertises a product they don't want to sell, unless it's some type of loss leader.

Of course, you got cheap shoes out of it, so perhaps you both won?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is what is valuable or not is up to you. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean they don't want it. What's perfectly legal and mundane today can be illegal tomorrow.

[–] Delphia 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they outlaw blondes with big tits there will be a revolution.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of good advice given to me that I didn't take so I'm not coming from a holier than thou place. I know all the amazing benifits of regularly working out and yet I'm still a lazy bum.

The only difference is I don't go on the internet replying to posts on working out about how much I don't give a shit about my health, picking fights with strangers.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 0 points 1 year ago

I'm already tighter with my money than a dolphins asshole.

Very nicely put :-)

But still an illusion. You are still a true and well adapted consumer, connected to all your pipes in The Matrix.

Saying that you are tight is equal to saying that you feel powerless, because all your money=power is owned by somebody else.

You are actually consuming. You are actually spending your money. You feel like you have no choice, but you have - if you only recognized it.