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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry but I do all of that and it's not any better at all. No washer/dryer, no washing machine, I live in a fucking garage and pay more rent than anyone in the 50s paid mortgage.

Houses that are glorified sheds in flood zones in the worst parts of town go for 300k+. I'm not even entry level and I can't afford the cheapest garbage excuse for a house out here without becoming house poor. I can't even "move where it's cheaper" because WFH people did and now it's not cheaper. The areas that are truly cheap, are so because there's no work to be had around them. Can't appreciate the low cost of an area when your unemployed.

[–] SCB 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I specifically said it wasn't better. That's what "massively increased standard of living" implies.

It is cheaper though, which is why you do it. I agree it sucks.

That we should make it easier to achieve a massively better life than the 50s is the intent of the post you are replying to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree. I think the "smaller houses" bit just sent me off on a rant because I keep hearing that argument as a way to dismiss current housing price issues, but it's just not the reality I see when I look at glorified sheds selling for 300k.

[–] SCB 3 points 1 year ago

Well there's also a dramatic under-supply of housing as well.

A tripling in housing cost resulting in average houses costing $80k or so, which would approximately align with price increase/sqft would be much more tenable for people.

Still, it's a higher standard of living and more expensive though, and should be taken into account when looking to provide the right economic conditions for people. That's why I brought that up.

Bottom line is, as always, fuck NIMBYism and build more. Big houses, small houses, multi-family housing, all of it.