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Holy shit these comments...
Guys, I think you have over-saturated your target forum. Too many on the same site, you gotta tell the higher ups to spread it around more so it's not so obvious.
Edit: Just for folks who may not understand: Harris has to walk a fine rhetorical line before the election. The reality is, if she comes out strongly about Israel/Palestine in any way whatsoever, she will lose. People here can't seem to grasp this fact. Maybe they don't live in the US and understand the political/social climate here? Or perhaps they're just too young?
She will lose, and Trump will give Netanyahu carte blanche to expand his ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
I wish I knew how Harris actually feels about the situation, and I believe her reticence to support Israel in the way Biden has is a good sign. But no, I wish I knew what she's going to do; all I know is that it's far better than the only other possible alternative. Anyone who's gonna say 'der how you know that,' is disingenuous as fuck. You know why. I'm not going to explain that shit again.
Except Harris has come out with a strong stance. Ironclad support for Israel.
The issue is that people fundamentally don't understand what power they actually have in this election. People are tired of a two-party dichotomy, and that is understandable, but the assignment in three weeks is to decide between Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. One of those two people will become president for the next 4 years. There are no alternatives, even if there are technically other parties on the ballot, if you are actually hoping to influence the results of the election in your favor, you absolutely need to choose between one of the two ruling parties.
A growing number of leftists have decided that, even in the absence of any election reform that would actually break the two-party system, they want to protest against it, either by voting for inviable third party spoilers, or not voting at all.
All I can see is that people are either so stupid, they don't understand the assignment, or they are so stupid they can't figure out whether Trump or Harris is the lesser evil. Either way, anyone vocally demanding that people don't for Harris is either stupid (if they consider themselves on the left), or evil (if they are actually rooting for Trump).
I understand your point and I agree that harris is in a tough situation figuring biden supports the genocide. However I actually think your take on her needing to walk the line is wrong. Polling actually shows a shift even with dems messaging against Palestine and pretending it all started on Oct 7th. Additionally, if she argued for stopping weapons transfers of offensive weapons, this would also be popular among Americans, a plurality of which support a ceasefire. Just adding context to say that Harris is not pro-palestinian and them banning Palestinians from the DNC has highlighted this. To specify, I will support harris this selection, but just because Trump is a fascist, not because she supports any solution to the conflict.