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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thinking democrats couldn’t possibly do it cuz republicans are is wild.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/01/project-2025-explained-what-to-know-about-the-right-wing-policy-map-ahead-of-tonights-vp-debate/?

If you seriously need an article on us supporting Israel’s genocide on Gaza I can as well.

Yea, republicans may be worse on these but the literal point of many voting third party is it’s absolutely fucked to just blindly accept the party of “slightly less excited for genocide but still definitely excited for genocide.” One party being worse should not be a pass.

[–] Cryophilia -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Republicans do this horrible thing all the time and in really bad ways.

A Democrat once suggested thinking about possibly doing a part of it, might have been a joke I dunno.

Clearly, both sides are the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fucking lol ok. Well, tried to be sane and reasonable but clearly you're not here for that. My bad. Sorry for treating you like a person.

[–] Cryophilia -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea, republicans may be worse on these but

That "but" is irrelevant if you understand at all how the American electoral system works. You choose the lesser or the greater of two evils. Always. You want to change the party itself, vote in the primaries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yes, yes, sell your soul to Genocide and maybe you can buy it back if you vote hard enough! Or at least they'll only increase the state sponsored genocide by a little bit more each year! That is.... uhhh. good? Yes thats what I want to call that. Good!

Wild you can say a but about still murdering tons of small children is irrelevant.

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't change the calculation. Murder more children, or less children?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If all the children are dead either way then you haven't actually murdered less children.

[–] Cryophilia -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok, but only one side is calling for murdering literally all of the children, and that's the Republicans. Democrats are at least attempting to work towards peace and provide humanitarian aid.

It's fine if you say that's not enough. I agree. But it's not "kill em all".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Democrats are at least attempting to work towards peace and provide humanitarian aid.

That's what they say and what they'd like us to think but that's not what Biden's policy reflects, nor Kamala's language and conduct in her campaign.

A Palestinian-American voice, a rather reasonable and balanced one, wasn't even allowed to speak at the DNC. Plenty of time for the families of hostages and a pandering cop from Genesee County, Michigan, though.

We are long past "self defense" and deep into genocide territory, yet Kamala keeps droning on about Israel's "right to defend themselves" even as Israel sabotages peace talks and opens a new front in Lebanon. When does self defense end and genocide begin if not at any point before now? Why is it unprovoked terrorism when the brown people do it but defensive war when the west does it? When are they going to stop "urging" and start threatening aid?

This is a clear bias and they've given us absolutely no sign that their pit of generosity towards Israel has any bottom to it, yet because the republicans are more open about their hatred you've given a pass to policy that will end in the exact same outcome. Total destruction of Palestine and a continuing violent apartheid with zero consequences for Israel.

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

policy that will end in the exact same outcome.

This is the cornerstone of all you "genocide joe" fucksticks and it makes no sense. Only one party is calling for a total extermination of Palestinians - the Republican Party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Read my full reply and I promise it will make sense.

Policy/actions and talking points are two different things. The democrat's walk does not match their talk. You're falling for talking points and feel-good finger wagging while the policy and action is effectively the same.

Netanyahu is already running the show, we're already helping him carry this out. It doesn't make a difference if the guy signing the checks has an (R) or (D) next to their name and feigns pride or concern in doing so, if either way there are zero consequences for escalating the situation to a full multi-front war.

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Conspiracy theory crap. "Sure, the Dems say they want peace and sure they've actively worked towards negotiating a peace and sure they've sent humanitarian aid but I know what they really want, and it conveniently happens to be whatever will make me not vote for them."

Besides, "evil Jews are secretly controlling the US" has been done to death already.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol there it is, off comes the mask. Dishonestly suggesting that criticizing Israel's actions is antisemitism just because the democrats made a big show about facilitating negotiations and writing strongly worded letters and sending care packages while Netanyahu openly defies and sabotages the negotiations and continues bombing innocent civilians without recourse.

You can lead a horse to fresh water but you can't make them drink. This conversation is over. You don't give a fuck about Palestine.

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This conversation never started because you only ever parrot Russian propaganda. It's always for the audience.

Netanyahu sabotaging negotiations is far better than there being no negotiations at all. Yes, Democrats need to stop providing aid. But do not pin every bullshit thing Netanyahu does on Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, we're getting all the classics now. "all criticism of Democrats is Russian propaganda, war is peace, and Democrats can't be blamed for actively funding genocide and letting the leader of a foreign nation very publicly walk all over them in an election year" and you still think you came up with all of that yourself. How quaint.

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 1 week ago

Cute, you think adding a reductio ad absurdum and a flat out falsehood equals a reasonable opinion.

You aren't spewing Russian propaganda? Who are you voting for in November then?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lmao. You are not a serious person.

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 week ago

But muh bOtH sIdEz hurt