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None of these chickenshit cowards will respond because they know their arguments don't hold up under the weight of reality. All they have is "b-but Kamala is doing the genocide now and Trump might not do it" when that's so obviously false it's kind of stunning. It's how you know these fucks are either Republican trolls trying to undermine Kamala's campaign because they know their candidate sucks or they're just so marinated in propaganda and theory they lack the bandwidth to actually apply basic logic to even the most obvious of situations.

My truly white-hot take is that if I had to choose between Palestine being reduced to ash and losing me and my family's rights and Palestine being reduced to ash and me and my family not losing my rights...I'm going to take the option that involves me and my family not losing my rights lol.

And, to be frank, if I had to choose between helping a million strangers I've never met or not, with the lives of my family and friends on the line, I'd probably pick my family and friends over the strangers, regardless of the issue.

You can moan and cry all you want about "you are voting for genocide" or whatever - the fact is that the world is much larger than Palestine. Other things are at stake here. How the fuck are all those Palestinians (who are still going to be bombed by the Republicans btw) going to deal with climate change as its effects worsen when a Republican administration takes power in the US and rolls back all our climate protections and attempts to mitigate climate change? The global poor are FUCKED if we don't handle that shit as best we can ASAP. Full stop.

I'm personally not interested in fucking over every other person on the planet for Palestine. Is the genocide horrible? Yes. Should it be stopped immediately? Yes. Do I want it to stop? Also, yes. But can I in good conscience actively utilize my vote to wring my hands over genocide and allow an even worse scenario to play out? Fuck no.

There are more things at stake here than just Palestine. Shit sucks, but that's the world we live in and there won't be magical change just because you wring your hands and screech on the internet about how random people are "supporting a genocide by voting for Kamala" when any person with half a brain can see that the Republican party has acted the same way in the past and will actively accelerate it when given the chance (remember when Trump pissed everyone off by moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, effectively recognizing the stolen land there?). Grow the fuck up and see that the world isn't so simple - sometimes there are no good options, only mildly less shitty ones.

I mean, this is just asking them to be ok with being illegally deported by the GOP when Project 2025 hits its stride after a Trump win.

I won't even bother explaining why the reasoning itself is stupid, as OP obviously won't engage honestly and cry genocide (which, to be clear, it is one, but the cold hard fact is that there are other things at play here outside of just Palestine).

There's a tamper-proof seal on the bottle

The problem I see with that is there really doesn't seem to be a point in bothering with things like civility. The people who say shit like that aren't concerned with anything other than being intentionally obnoxious. A quick jab back to remind any reader that this is what is at stake here and then going into an explanation of "this is how absurd these people are" seems quite effective to me in the short attention span online space.

I think I'm just gonna start responding to anyone who goes after a person for voting Dem with "why do you hate immigrants and LGBTQ+ people?" Make them come up with some kind of answer while they accuse us of doing "mental gymnastics" to vote for Kamala Harris.

Granted, it's kind of stupid, but I'm not sure what else can be said to someone lacking that much self-awareness.

It's funny, I had thought about mentioning that I'm a straight white dude, so I'm pretty safe from direct problems when it comes to the Republicans targeting women and minorities. Of course, I have both A) friends and family who do not fit that mold, and B) a fucking conscience, so I will likely never vote Republican as long as I live...

Of course, I have to make concessions to those ideals whenever I vote, due to the issues like Gaza...which, while it pains me to say it: I will not willingly let those friends and family members' rights be taken away on account of a bunch of strangers thousands of miles away.

Do I hate genocide? Duh.

Will I vote for "Genocide Joe" or whatever? Absolutely.

For both the reasons stated above and because a protest vote in the US just means letting the people who more broadly oppose your ideals win (and they'd just make the situation worse).

I'm slowly becoming more convinced that any and all so-called leftists online that refuse to vote Dem over Gaza are just intentionally trolling or are bots - the sheer lack of awareness just baffles me.

I recall a post somewhere from a person saying they can tell when a leftist online is from a blue state or a red state by how they act - I think this whole interaction is very telling where this person is from.

In my state, I'd be happy to have a Democrat of basically any kind over a Republican. Abortion rights are fucked, public education is hobbled, and I expect LGBT rights to be eroded further in the next year or so. Would I like to see leftist policies implemented? Absolutely, but I'll take what I can conceivably get, even if that means things simply don't get worse.

Lol ok whatever you say. Enjoy the consequences of letting the uneducated run things

How do you think shift destruction to russian villages will help end the war sooner?

Gee, I dunno, let's ask Germany how the Soviet advance into Germany helped end the war faster lmfao

Hitting someone until they stop hitting you is a good way to end an altercation, especially since the aggressor clearly won't use words to end it.

And, pray tell, what library or school has pornography in it that is easily accessible to minors?

Furthermore, having lived my entire life around educators and now working for an educational institution: parents are fucking stupid lol

The sheer numbers of videos of parents bitching and crying at school meetings or libraries about "X book is pornographic" or "this book has witchcraft and should be burned" is absurd. Those mouth breathers don't even know how to critically examine a fucking facebook post for bullshit, let alone comprehend the difficulty in teaching children.

Don't like your kid learning about how Trans people exist? Go fuck yourself and homeschool your kid so they can be permanently stunted in terms of preparation for the real world. Let the vast majority of regular people make sure their kids grow up socially aware and at least passingly prepared for the future.

Also, "this will be the law?" Have you seen the flailing Republican party? Guess what fucker - the average American thinks project 2025 is batshit and the republican party got hijacked by a manchild and ruined their stupid plans. It's only downhill from here now that they went mask off - most people think they're nuts.

Thanks lol

I wasn't sure about the longer term background issues simmering under the surface