Just checked your comment history. Let me guess, the one at [email protected]? Lemmy.ml is MASSIVELY overloaded right now. 10x our users, half our server power. Treat any community there as "Will work if I'm lucky and time it right".
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Holy hell, lemmy.ml is that underpowered? Not that shit just works is underpowered, but...
Compare lemmy.ml's setup to ours.
EDIT: Lemmy.ml just crashed again. Was listed as 6 CPU, 32GB RAM
EDIT2: It's back up again, corrected my numbers. Worse than I thought.
Holy moly, lemmy.ml runs on not faster hardware than my old home server. Its replacement will be faster
No, I can post there. It's on [email protected].
Trying it myself, having the same issue. It's not federation issues site-wide, popped into some popular posts and there are posts from sh.itjust.works users. It's not a block issue (although that allowed instance makes me very suspicious on their end), and it's not a site overloading issue (their site seems to be running fine).
EDIT: I KNEW IT! https://sh.itjust.works/post/70752
Should work fine now
Thanks! I'm subbed now. Of course, the comments that were added before I subbed aren't accessible from here, but at least I can join any that come along later.
I think you might be able to subscribe and unsubscribe? I'm not sure why it would federate over the post itself but not the comments.
If subscriptions are getting stuck pending, the community's home instance could be overloaded. Maybe the comments will federate over later.
Thank you. I'll stick with it until it's no longer pending and see if it fixes itself. You're probably right that it's just a taxed server.
If the pending subscription does sort itself out in a minute or two, and the Lemmy server hosting the community isn't broken right now (test by visiting it's homepage in a browser), then you can click the pending button to unsub and try to sub again. Retrying like this is how I sorted all my pendings, though obviously be chill and don't do it a million times and generate million subscribe messages if something is legit busted.
I have about a half dozen pending subscriptions, and have tried a few times to unsub then resub over the past 24 hours to them to no avail. I'll keep trying. But they're not all on the same server.
Fair enough. It's really hard as a user to determine the difference between a bug on your instance and weirdness due to all instances being sluggish and heavily loaded. I don't have more advice beyond give it time and retries, but I empathize with your frustration. It's all a bit strings and bailing wire right now, but if you watch the githubs contributions from very sharp experts are flying in at record pace. Hopefully it gets better (though I don't have a GitHub issue to point to for this problem).
Oh it's not that big a deal. I guess it sounds like I'm frustrated, but text can be like that. I'm just trying to figure some things out. And it turns out that all but one of the pending subs are on lemmy.ml, so it really is likely a server-side issue.
If another account on your server has already subscribed to the remote-comminity... then federation replicates it to your server even if YOU are not subscribed. In this case, you can visit the version of the community and its posts posts that are hosted on your instance, and comment/vote even if you're not subscribed.
If no one subs on your instance the post won get replicated to your instance in the first place, and you won't be able to comment/vote. If you subbed halfway through the posts lifetime, you'll be able to interact with new comments since your sub but old ones will be missing... which does feel surpassingly weird when it happens... but pragmatically it only lasts for a short while as new posts fill up the community timeline post-subscription and those have fully replicated.comment sections.
I'm not aware of a way to force your server to fetch the full comment chain of a post that predates anyone subscribing to the community to make federation kick it. Try searching your local instance for the post url, that jumpstarts community discovery. Maybe it also jumpstarts comment replication. If not though, I'm, out of ideas.
I see, thanks. Yeah, that stinks. I'll say one of my favorite ways to use reddit has been to search for threads related to an interest of mine and join the discussion, whether or not I'm subscribed to the subreddit. It seems like that's not possible on Lemmy.
Well it's not... like... consistently possible. There happens to be a bonkers amount of new community creation happening this very minute. In the steady state, you'd kind of hope to see that on a well-trafficked instance like sh.itjust.works that most subs have been subscribed for a while and so this all works pretty much as expected.
But a massive wave of new community creation where you're frequently on the leading edge disconcerting new communities and being the first to subscribe to them... yeah... that's the worst case scenario for this situation. It think it will improve with time, but it does suck mightily right this minute.
I can do it using Jerboa anyway. I assume some instances are set up so you can't comment if you're not subbed, but I haven't found one yet.
Can you share how you got to a thread on another instance in a community you're not subscribed to with Jerboa? I haven't figured that out yet.
if it is a link in your feed, hopefully the app handles this. the web browser interface for sh.itjust.works handles the URL properly to let you see the thread while remaining here, and comment like a damn fool!
the manual way:
- take "https://lemmy.ml/c/whatever" if that is the link someone provided in a post...
- navigate to "https://sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected]"
- you'll notice that you're still "here" on sh.it, but seeing what is hosted "there" on lemmy.ml.
for example:
In Jerboa that first link at beehaw gives me "404: coundnt_find_community", but then I clicked the second link and it looks like it worked.
Yeah but if you're asking about lemmy.ml they're just swamped so that's probably why your comment isn't posting.
Yep!
Yep what? How do you do it?
Aha sorry, yes you can comment to any thread so long as you can load the post on your end.
Can you walk me through how to do it? As it is, I can only see a thread on a community I'm not subscribed to by going to the instance it's hosted on. But I'm not logged in there.
While you wait for sh.itjust.works to sync all the comments, you can browse it on the other communities instance, find the comment you want to interact with, then right click the little rainbow icon next to the hyperlink icon, copy that link into sh.itjust.works' search bar and it will sync that comment immediately, letting you interact with it.
For example, if I found your comment on another instance and I wanted to reply, I would copy the link to it, go to my instance (lemmy.one) and paste the link which is: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/120320
Hacky solution ik but itll work until the user experience kinks are ironed out.
I've found that the best way to load a post or community is actually to just copy the remote link and search for it. Communities usually take about 30 seconds to load but if you sit in the search results page for a bit it'll show up.
But you may want to make sure that your instance isn't blocked, by going to [instanceurl]/instances
Does that get you comments too? In another thread OP said they were trying to access [email protected] and when I go to that community via my instance, i see the posts but no comments. And its obviously been a bit since it started syncing. Our instances arent blocked
It's got me comments before.
It sounds like you're trying to get comments from posts to sync, rather that query individual comments.
You should be able to load this comment, for example: https://exploding-heads.com/comment/29311
But I don't know of a way to force all comments on a remote post to load.
Yeah comment loading works, damn so I read on another comment that it only syncs new content when you are the first to subscribe? Not the end of the world but not ideal lol
Interesting. So this means everything should sync with any new posts to the community then?
I guess so, ill keep an eye out on new communities and see what I can piece together https://lemmy.world/comment/136761 This was the comment btw
It depends on if that instance has blocked your instance that you made your profile on, i know for example beehaw has blocked exploding heads (for very little reason tbh) so now i can’t comment there but on here i can see your comment and give my two cents
Oh, hey, that's cool! I knew the "network" icon was a direct link, but didn't know searching for it on my instance would sync it. Super cool.
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