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[–] [email protected] 144 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Israelis pointing guns at Germans and asking if they're Jewish sounds straight out of an alternate history timeline.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds straight out of Israel.

[–] scrape -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! The founders of Israel were allies with the Nazis. Israel was a beneficiary of the holocaust. Israel directly contributed to the holocaust.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Dude, Arlosoroff was killed over this. To present this as if "the" founders of Israel were in agreement with this is disingenuous. This caused factions to completely go at each others throats.

The agreement was controversial [...] in the Zionist movement.[23] As historian Edwin Black put it, "The Transfer Agreement tore the Jewish world apart, turning leader against leader, threatening rebellion and even assassination."[24]

The Zionist Congress voted narrowly in favor and in a time when the US turned boats full of Jewish People back to Europe and Britain was restricting Jewish immigration into Mandatory Palestine, I think this is understandable, because this presented one of the very few ways to legally leave Europe and salvage some of your funds.

And calling the Zionists, that opened ways for Jews to flee a radically worsening Germany, allies of the Nazis is nothing but a big fat lie.

[–] scrape -3 points 11 months ago

You are admitting that they were allies while calling me a liar. Interesting debate tactic.

You are excusing the agreement with Nazi Germany. That agreement helped legitimize the Nazi government to the western world. It also broke the international anti-Nazi boycott.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Or maybe Mel Brook’s History of the World: Part III

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

Lol, just like the Nazis.

Even down to asking people if they're Jews.

[–] AbouBenAdhem 22 points 11 months ago

They could have just asked them to say the word “Shibboleth”.

[–] WhiteHawk 12 points 11 months ago

History may not repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

[–] Nobody 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Any source friendly to ad blockers?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

Those journalists were from German publicly funded media, the original article has zero ads or paywalls. Might be best to use that and have.it translated by the browser or the like:
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/ard-team-angegriffen-100.html

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If there's an adblock I can't get around because, for example, I'm using a DNS server that blocks ads on my phone then I just create a snapshot in the Wayback Machine. For whatever reason, websites don't block them or they're just really good at circumventing them.

http://web.archive.org/web/20231107062355/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-06/ty-article/german-journalists-detained-by-israeli-soldiers-asked-if-we-were-jewish-at-gunpoint/0000018b-a5ae-d9c0-a5fb-edfee9ed0000