“Oh no, my wifi is down. Guess I can’t boot up my freaking computer any more”. I’m so fed up with Microsoft and the steaming pile of crap that it calls Windows… the only reason my main PC uses it is because I’m too lazy to switch it to Ubuntu. All of my other newer machines run Ubuntu.
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That sounds like a very dumb move for the consumer market. Who would be the target audience for this? Gamers would hate that because of increased input lack. My mom wouldn't understand that she her PC wouldn't work without internet.
The only client for something like this would be enterprises so that they can buy cheap thin clients and have more control over compliance things.
undefined> My mom wouldn’t understand that she her PC wouldn’t work without internet.
To be fair 99% of the things I would like to do on a PC (necessarily) rely on the Internet...
I mean as someone who programs and likes the ability to host a server or do whatever I want on my computer if this was the only option for windows I would %100 use the current installation until forced upgrade then switch to Linux.
I don't even know how this would be possible or make sense to use for literally 90% of users, who's gonna pay monthly fee for a slower, glitchier and less functional product?
It’s highly unlike that this would replace Windows entirely; it would probably be more like a thin client used to access applications requiring high computing power. The preview they show in the article is like an extra desktop. Think of it like this: you’ve got your normal Windows OS sitting on your physical hardware, but you can also connect to “your” instance of Windows Cloud to do heavy rendering or fire up an AI model.
Okay wait so is it a thin client like web hosted windows instance or is it like a remote windows server for large processing?
In my experience thin clients are laggy, and lack any ability to do serious real time rendering, they have difficulties updating when lots of information is being sent.
If it was just windows on a server for you use that could be useful but any sort of back and forth data transmission would kill it's effectiveness unless all the data transmission happened at the end of a processes execution.
This article from April 2022 has some more details. It sounds like Microsoft is planning to implement several different options depending on your use case. This will probably be most commonly used by businesses, not consumers.
This bullshit will make me switch to Linux
Between games being unoptimized and borderline unplayable anyway, the monstrosity that is Windows 11 which I'm forced to use at work, and now this projected cloud bs? Nope. Not interested.
Bis 2031 wird die LTSC Version von win 10 noch mit Sicherheitsupdates versorgt, solange werden ich wohl noch Windows nutzen. Danach ist Linux hoffentlich auf fast dem gleichen Level an Comfort.
Ist es längst.
Außer man hat eine Grafikkarte von Nvidia. Diese Idioten bekommen keinen Cent mehr von mir.
Mein nächster Privatrechner wird wahrscheinlich auch eine Linux-Maschine. Derzeit habe ich nur das Problem, dass ich OneDrive als meinen privaten Cloud-Speicher benutze. Davon muss ich erst einmal wegkommen.
Nextcloud? Alternativ gibt es auch das Projekt "filebrowser" welches einfach Daten von einem Rechner im lokalen Netzwerk im Browser darstellt (ist etwas Leichtgewichtiger als NC)
onedrive funktioniert problemlos
Nein. Nein, beim besten Willen nicht. Klar kann man sich da toll seine komplette UI customizen aber der Treiber support ist nach wie vor unterirdisch und man muss sehr genau hinschauen welche Hardware man kauft damit auch alles garantiert ohne viel Handarbeit funktioniert.
Clouds are a big problem. Especially if they are maintained by GAFAM. An OS in the Cloud is ridiculous! What if the servers get hacked?
Aus Sicht eines Mitarbeiters eines kleinen Betriebes: das wird bedeuten, dass Millionen von Unternehmenspcs Win10 laufen lassen bis zum St.Nimmerleinstag. Mac ist nur in Spezialfällen möglich ("Kreativbranche"), Linux ist vielleicht bei reiner Textverarbeitung vom Umstieg her vermittelbar, aber ich hab zig Programme drauf, die nur für Windows zur Verfügung gestellt werden und für die entsprechend auch nur Windows-Support angeboten wird.
Dann wird’s Zeit mal andere Programme oder Hersteller zu suchen.
Und wo? Selbst programmieren vielleicht... Es gibt halt viele Felder, da gibt es exakt ein Programm von einem Hersteller.
I happened to have just made the switch to Linux Mint the other day. I'm glad I did, because this would have made me switch anyway.
I imagine a lot of people will live with it. As well, Windows is used extensively by businesses, and their offices already require a constant internet connection to meaningfully function anyway.
To be fair, so far it just seems like a nicer integration of Remote Desktop, where the remote PC becomes one of those Win+Tab Desktop views that already exist.
will it be a mass exodus to Linux/Mac?
Linux: Unlikely. Although Red Hat has recently been lobbying very emphatically, Linux for enterprise applications is still a wonder bag. Windows is reasonably stable as far as essential system functions are concerned, Linux, on the other hand, is a patchwork and this is noticeable even in RHEL and SLES.
macOS could well be an option. Apple tries to strictly follow the principle that user privacy plays an essential role (they converted me from Android to iOS with this), but I assume that macOS will also move "into the cloud" in the medium term (Service note: "The cloud" is just other people's computers.) as soon as Apple will have created a way to learn from the mistakes of others after years of watching the market. They always do.
for enterprises there might be a simple necessity to move on then.
Having your OS run in a Cloud where god knows who has access too and being completely at the whim of a single companies decisions, leaving alone the extreme vulnerability of such a system, is illegal for many businesses or would barr them from having access to regulated industries such as water, energy, healthcare and defense.
My company for instance is simply not allowed to do such shenanigans. We always have to go through a lot of hoops to use a simple SaaS tool.
Why would Apple do that? One of their biggest pros is that they have powerful machines, that are capable of more than an off the shelf PC Laptop. They even produce their own chips now. Why would anybody pay 4000+ $ for something that is essentially a thin client that just connects a display and some peripherals to a cloud?
In addition it would be very hard to convince their tech savvy consumers that a move to a cloud hosted OS would benefit privacy, which has become a bigger selling point over the recent years for them?
macOS could well be an option Not really, the OS is getting worse and worse.
Tbh, still better then windows. And a lot friendlier for the average consumer then Linux.
Not anymore. Working with both systems 10-12 hours a day macOs lost it's advantage some years ago.
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