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GOP primary voters told a CBS poll last month that their top priority in a presidential candidate is someone to “challenge woke ideas,” among Democrats. An unnamed candidate who makes “liberals angry,” was not far behind with 57 percent support.

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[–] Asafum 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine your entire political "philosophy" was just one word... "Hate."

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 7 points 1 year ago

That is all they have, the GOP hasn't governed anything this century. It's only been focused on vilification, conformity, and victim shaming. It doesn't stand for anything, just stands opposed to things it doesn't like.

[–] sylver_dragon 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This feel like the sort of " in disarray" articles which come out every few years. The last time these were rolling out about the GOP, they landed on Trump. While it's difficult to see what lies beyond Trump, I wouldn't doubt that there will be someone there to pick up the top hat and lead the circus. A quick look at recent history shows that voters are wiling to forgive just about anything. Nixon left office in disgrace in 1974. Regan was elected in 1981, winning the national popular vote by 9.7%. And even with the complete clusterfuck which was Trump's Presidency, Biden only won the National Popular Vote by 4.5% and because of the Electoral College map, nearly still lost.

While it may not be easy to see whom the GOP will pivot to next, I have little doubt that they will find someone. Maybe it's DeSantis, maybe it's someone else. But, the US electorate has shown a willingness to keep going back to the GOP every few years.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's usually the Democrats are in chaos! The difference here is that the GOP actually is divided due to the 'Freedom Caucus' causing a Civil War in the GOP. Traditionally this leads to a fracture, a third party, and a decline in power. See the Whig Party for examples.

[–] hoshi711 3 points 1 year ago

The dream scenario is the gop fracture kills off the republican party and the Democratic party splits in classic conservative democratic part and 'radical' left democratic party to fill the void.

It won't happen. But I can dream

[–] Thurkeau 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess get Elon Musk to run. :p

While I say that being funny, as Elon is every bit as well hated IME, I have still been hearing a few names thrown about. Whomever they pick, they need to find someone who is no-nonsense and there to get things done, and not give us politics as usual.

[–] partial_accumen 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess get Elon Musk to run. :p

Thankfully the Constitution prevents that from happening.

[–] patachu 4 points 1 year ago

Do we even know if Elon is "natural-born"? He could have been constructed in a lab by internet memelords.

[–] Thurkeau 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey. Nothing in the Constitution would prevent him from running if he felt like it.

[–] partial_accumen 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey. Nothing in the Constitution would prevent him from running if he felt like it.

I invite you to check out Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

source

Unless South Africa, Musk's place of birth, becomes a member of the Union, I think Elon is out of luck for the Presidency.

[–] TurboDiesel 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

there to get things done

But I really have to question what that even means anymore. The GOP doesn't have a platform, other than "what Trump said" and hasn't for some time. (I wish I were joking - the official party platform in I want to say 21? 22? was just "we support Trump.") It seems like they're only interested in winning some kind of bizarre christofascist purity contest. I haven't seen a single piece of policy to come from Republicans that wasn't aimed at harming some group or another. Sure - I guess if that's your goal they're "getting things done" but in reality they're just the party of no.

[–] dhork 1 points 1 year ago

I wish I were joking - the official party platform in I want to say 21? 22? was just “we support Trump.”

Sort of. The parties approve platforms every four years, in alignment with the Presidential campaign. But in 2020, they simply didn't bother making a new one. They even voted on and approved a resolution saying they wouldn't write a new platform.

[–] Thurkeau -1 points 1 year ago

I've noticed pretty much the same thing. The GOP is looking more and more like the Democratic Party with each passing day, as if they weren't essentially interchangeable as it is. It's not out of the question that George Orwell's 1984 isn't too far off from what we actually do have.