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Four volunteer crew members entered a Mars-realistic 3D printed habitat.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

We still have a lot to learn of the psychology of the situation. Results from these studies are always interesting. Even if it is far from the real thing.

It is also a perfect starting point for a post apocalyptic novel. "The only group to survive the end was a small band of researchers, stuck in their isolation experiment."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder what specifically they're interested in vs long deployments in Antarctica (people do 12 months rotations in some stations there).

I found this article discussing the psychology of placements in Australian antarctic stations: https://psychology.org.au/for-members/publications/inpsych/2021/february-march-issue-1/life-in-the-australian-antarctic-program.

The differences as I see them are:

  1. Smaller crew
  2. No unsuited outdoor time
  3. Smaller space
  4. Communication latency / outages
  5. Personal belongings weight/volume limits
  6. Dietary restrictions
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

those doing a antartic winter may as well have the no suited outdoor time, poor clothing choice will be death almost as quick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm thinking a lot of the equipment is different as well, and since they mention simulating equipment malfunctions, that plays an important part, especially with the additional limitations/simulated dangers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Antarctica trips have all of those limits you mentioned, they'll just be worse for Mars. While they can operate sort of freely for a few months, once winter sets in, they are just as isolated as another planet. They just get the advantage of easier setup then Mars.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They did a similar thing before. Not sure if this would be super cool to do, or super boring.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also the biosphere 2 missions.

Those…. Ended “well”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

True, but the bio-dome project was a smashing success!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think there are easier ways to reduce your screen time.

[–] FantasticFox 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do we actually intend to send humans to Mars in any reasonable timeframe?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess that depends on what you consider reasonable. I figure if they're starting with simulations such as this now, it's reasonable to expect an actual manned mission in maybe 20 years.

[–] FantasticFox 2 points 1 year ago

I thought they'd done simulations like this in the past though. I may have been thinking of the Mars Society ones rather than actual NASA though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hard to say - There's still a lot of hazards yet to be accounted for: a lot more radiation exposure, literal poison in the soil, severe weather, safe and affordable supply chain, etc.

[–] FantasticFox 2 points 1 year ago

I think the radiation exposure might be manageable though, as at least in theory you can shield the habitats.

The showstopper could be the low gravity - we haven't really done many experiments on low gravity, the Mars Gravity Biosatellite never got built. But if it turns out that Martian gravity is really damaging to human health and thus long-term habitation is not viable then I think we'd have to really rethink our human spaceflight goals as on a planet you don't even have the option to simulate gravity via the centrifugal force - so it could just be game over for Mars colonisation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

One of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes

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