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Always the Same Map

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Its always the same map.

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At least they were kind enough to point out the source

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so two-faced. Imagine the nerve it takes to sit in a meeting with representatives of these 'hybrid regimes' and 'authoritarians'. At least the writers have the humility to call the US a flawed democracy (their freedom and democracy cheerleaders aren't going to like that lol; the rivalry between the limeys and yanks is still alive).

The Anglo-Europeans are lucky the rest of the world is so much more civilised and willing to be the better person in the room. If I was an official for Mexico or Turkey I'd start every meeting with a recent news story and ask for an explanation to watch my democratic counterpart squirm.

I have the feeling that this is how China is starting to respond to this shit. Glorious to see. Unfortunately, it assumes that Angleuros are capable of shame (Angloeuros? – I'm coining a new word).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

humility to call the US a flawed democracy

They’re Bri*ish, so they can afford a jab at their former colonies who have been pretending “their own democratic institutions succeed, whilst those of other countries fail” since the country began (Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville, p. 457)

China is starting to respond to this shit. Glorious to see.

Uncritical support for more of this

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cuba: starts a countrywide voting referendum for the entire island to decide to push LGBTQ rights further than the US and many EU countries.

Saudi Arabia: is a literal absolute monarchy

The Economist: "These are literally the same"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's like a sort of heat map of liberal capitalism. The bluer the color the more aligned you are with the leading imperialist powers lol

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That actually works surprisingly well

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

yeah there's some inconsistencies but it's very close lol

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Saudi Arabia is more democratic than Laos, China, or Korea L毛.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

France is somehow a full democracy, even though in the past 6 years every protest has been blasted by the police, and laws with 20% popular support have been adopted without letting the national assembly vote them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

lmao england is more "democratic" than Portugal

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Economist intelligence unit 🤣

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol took into account political participation, gives Aotearoa New Zealand full democracy status. Our voter turn out is in the toilet, the select committee process and public submissions are only accessible to the bourgeoisie not the working class.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

No, that's where you got it mixed up, tankie, lower participation = freedom

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally trustworthy institution that carried out this research. Founded by the American Government™

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Founded by the American Government™

This time it’s not; just The Economist proving Lenin right (for the millionth time)

Edit: I guess this is somewhat based on something by the Freedom House, which by contrast, is State Department-funded

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trying to figure out if they recognize the US is so bad it finally warrants as a flawed democracy by their own warped metrics, or if there's a party bias and they're calling the US flawed because they don't like how much power the other side has in their country...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The U.S. was demoted from full to flawed in 2016 if that helps you decide.

I think they genuinely believe these rankings

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh they do. Even funnier, I bet some of them realize the "authoritarian" countries happen to be ones not under the economic control of Europe or the US, but as soon as they show a trickle of self-awareness I bet they shut it down.

That one meme of Principal Skinner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also gives them plausible deniability. If you pint out an inconsistency they can say that they’re “unbiased”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

True. Though, considering Europe - and especially Scandinavia - is deepest blue, I wonder if the source is just European.

Actually just looked it up. Statista is German, lmao.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought France was a flawed democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Would you mind expanding on your point here?

Edit: Found a comment by another user that expanded on this:

France is somehow a full democracy, even though in the past 6 years every protest has been blasted by the police, and laws with 20% popular support have been adopted without letting the national assembly vote [on] them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for searching about it, and that yes that's what i was alluring to.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lol they couldn't even suspend their anti-communism for long enough to put Russia at the bottom of the list. After two years of what these same people have been framing as the most evil invasion in history.

Edit: Lol at the down votes. I'd love to know what y'all think I'm saying.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, they gave Russia its lowest score since the index began in 2006 and dropped it by almost a full point since 2021, so I’m sure it’s because of the “most evil invasion”

Edit: They themselves confirmed this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d love to know

If you really want to know, look at the lemm.ee version of this post

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Nooo not like that.