I wonder how long it takes until admins take over the communities
this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2023
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I have a feeling all of the default subs will be taken over pretty quickly. The small subs will be forgotten about.
I don't think the subs should go private, but rather they should just get straight-up abandoned. The admins will have a much harder time dealing with all the unmoderated content that will inevitably show up, and it will look way worse to advertisers.
I think anarchychess is planning exactly that. They're private today (Sunday) and going unmoderated on Monday.
The chaos that's gonna ahppen is gonna be on the same level as Y2K and the miiverse last 30 minutes
That just give Reddit an out for taking over subs, saying they are unmoderated.
If they go private then Reddit would need to forcibly take over the subs without a proper reason for doing it.
theres even more precedent of them taking over unmoderated subs
Hm, I like this idea -- the content is what values Reddit.
That's what I expect to happen as well. Nothing stops them from kicking out the current mods / admins, replacing them with new mods willing to take over and continue as before (or even use AI moderation tools to minimize the efforts).
Who though? Who wants to mod a community that big, for a company that will throw mods under the bus, for a company that is burning bridges with developers instead of finding reasonable compensation, for a company that that is so bad at supporting mods mods have to rely on third parties to support (which they are also burning bridges with), for a company that is "not profitable", for a company that is laying people off, not hiring.
AI moderation? No way they will "meet increasing regulatory compliance" with that.
What a fucking shitshow. There are just no words for how big of a hole Reddit has dug itself.
Plenty of shills and ass kissers willing to do the deed. The roles will get filled quickly by them
gotdamn... that was an indictment. well said.
wish more would go out indefinitely, this is great
Won’t matter. Based on recent behavior I’d expect any reasonably large sub to be forcibly reopened by the admins after a couple days. If the current mods won’t cooperate then they’ll be replaced by the hordes who want to go on a power-trip.
This scenario has happened before, has it not? Why would anyone expect that Reddit will respond differently this time and walk back their plans?
That doesn't mean though that we ,as a community ,shouldn't try and change them .
I definitely agree with you and didn't mean to imply that the reddit community should just roll over. I was simply inquiring why so many think it'll be different now when there is history of Reddit not giving a duck, removing mods, and reopening.
Hopefully it will be different this time, but with Spez's focus on IPO and AI, I really don't see much going well for anyone right now. Tomorrow is just a day away, so we'll see where this roller coaster ends up!
We should all act like power-trip addicts and ask Reddit to make us the new mods. And then when they do that we just black out the subs again.
Damn it's all crashing down isn't it. I honestly see most of the subs enthusiastic toward the blackout going this way
Reddit CEO and his other gangsters don't even care ... it's nice though that everyone's protesting on Reddit, I love that! Sad truth is just that they don't really care, least everyone can do is leave the platform but that's not going to happen. Also, I truly don't understand why they don't move here?
I rather like it here tbh. It has more of that old school forum-y feel to it and while the concept of the fediverse was strange and confusing, just a couple days of wandering around and clicking the things made me a lot more comfortable. I don’t foresee going back to Reddit, personally.
The learning curve is definitely steeper here, which will be a barrier to a lot of the most casual users.
but if Apollo would be ported to Lemmy, would that make it simpler?
This is the inevitable problem that pushed me to Lemmy. Even if we win this battle over 3rd party apps, we'll lose the war because Reddit Admins hold all the cards.
This is great! But the problem is they're probably just going to replace the admins/mods w/e they're called that control the subreddit and just open it up again...
There was some mods discussing this on Tildes, and the mods seemed to think that replacing them wouldn't be as easy as people make it out to be. Mods apparently have a wealth of institutional knowledge that is required due to the lackluster default mod suite, and apparently the admins rely on them to come up with their own solutions to issues. Replacing the mods sounds like it will reduce the quality of the content but also will be a big headache for any new mods to jump in. Reddit may not give a shit and they may think it won't significantly affect investor interest, but I wonder if us regular users will notice a difference. Hell, there's already been a difference over the past 10 years.
You think reddit cares about that?
The title says /r/iPhone has almost 4 million subscribers, they'll find replacement mods in the blink of an eye.
But it will still hurt them, immensely. All these people on lemmy are proof of that, moderation quality on reddit will also go down and the site's reputation will be permanently tarnished.
Millionaires are not qualified to run social media websites.
Right, that's what I'm saying - I'm curious if we'll notice a quality drop in content, if the majority of users who stay will notice or care, and how that will affect Reddit's bottom line and investor opportunities.
It's mostly just creative automod rules, it's not that big a deal and plenty of users would come up with solutions in short order.
I think thats naive..they will be replaced it just might not be well.
Mods if you see this, nuke the sub on the way out. Remove all older posts if you can
Right, that's what I'm saying - replacement may be easy, but those mods were suggesting a hit to quality. Something tells me Reddit is ready for widespread nuking and has a backup solution to handle that, but it would be lovely to see it all go down. Can't wait to see what Reddit looks like after all these Subreddits finish going dark.
The only way Reddit can change if majority/ all of the unpaid mods completely stop moderating.
This will be bigger than less quality contents as without moderation Reddit will be bigger cesspool than it is now.
And once that happens, common users will stop using Reddit and thus slowly killing it like Tumblr or Digg.