this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2023
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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one wants to toil.

Work is unavoidable. And if I have a chance to work on my projects and my communities I am left feeling alive, valuable, and fulfilled.

What these bosses and corporations want is for me to do their projects and work on their communities for as little as possible while being dehumanized.

That is toil.

And no one wants to fucking toil anymore. That much, I say, is true.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Succinctly well said. Cheers.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Newspapers, owned by rich people, have been regurgitating the same conservative talking points.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you could broaden that out and call them capitalist talking points.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tl;dr: nobody ever wanted to work

[–] objectionist 10 points 1 year ago

it's almost like humans were designed to live together rather than for each other

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Nobody wants to work, they just have to in order to survive.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

take it from me, I've worked before and it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any idea on any of these sources? It'd be great to be able to point to actual articles dating back more than a century when having a conversation/debate/argument about the "nobody wants to work" narrative

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's telling how the old quote includes "for wages"

Our society has been dragged so far right that we harldy discuss abolition of the wage system these days.

It's not an issue about working. Its an issue about working for wages (as opposed to workers owning the means of production and distributing the profits democratically and equally)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Nobody wants to work ... for the peanuts we're offering.

[–] _number8_ 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

work is important for society to function but it shouldn't be maximized at the expense of quality of life

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 4 points 1 year ago

As we gain productivity, we force people out of if the workforce and get the remaining to do more than they did before using the new capabilities. What we should be doing is letting people work less.

Instead we make the "best" people work more and force "the worst" out entirely. This, then leads to the gig economy where people are working all the time just trying to get by and a growing shadow population is people who are not even really in the workforce.

It's a race to the bottom here, folks. We built this world through a shared consensus that the rich get richer and if you're not rich you're either unlucky, lazy, or both. That was based on wealth being derived from physical force. You can't fight the big guys with the clubs and bear skin armour so you try to stay on their good side and get by.

It's time to go beyond that. It will require people to not treat each other like crap if they get half a chance, though, which means we need a few generations to be without childhood trauma so they can grow up to be people who don't lead fear based lives. It's going to take some time to get there, and a realisation that that's the only way of the hamster wheel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nobody on this Com wants to work anymore, they just keep posting the same stuff. This is image is recycled fodder that keeps showing up in my feed. Work on your posts at least people!