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I wanted to see if Midjourney also has a "hidden language" like DALL-E 2 in this post: https://programming.dev/post/102011

So I ran a little experiment.

I gave this prompt from the article to Midjourney:

Two farmers talking about vegetables, with subtitles --q 2

But it didn't produce any text:

Then I tried this:

text logo of fitness company including motto --q 2

This gave me what I wanted: logos with text.

Then entered the nonsensical words from one of the logos:

FRVNE MIASE --q 2

This triggered an abuse detection filter which I appealed. Then Midjourney produced these equally nonsensical but absolutely wonderful images:

First I thought that the results had nothing to do with the original prompt, but if you look at the logo, it has mountains in it, so maybe "FRVNE MIASE" means mountain?

I don't have more time to play around with this but if someone else can get further with it, I would love to see the results!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Decided I would try this with Stable Diffusion - Emaonly 1.5

resultsTUPTLE CRAPLIU -

Tiupli - bullshit

CHRMLLNIA -

So yeah, I don't think SD has anything of this sort. The results are similar to if I type in complete bullshit: OPSKAEOPSAEKSAELMAESOJSAEKLHWQEWQECOIUWEOIWQODWDJHSDMWOIEUQWRRNFJKBEIURFYHQOEIEJFOLEIFDJALSKDJPAWOJODIJDIWHFN

results

Also typed in my username, as some commented in the thread. I got a lot of pictures of singers who looked suspiciously like Abel Tesfaye. My other username, which obviously has "deer" on it:

results

My old discord username, which has nothing to do with buildings whatsoever:

results

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting! It seems like the claim in the original article is only true in very specific cases, if at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's neat!

[–] nieceandtows 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me the common element in your picture seems to be some sort of orange teardrop shape. In some cases it’s a balloon, in others it’s a mushroom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re right! And it appears in all of them, regardless of the prompt. Maybe it uses this shape for any weird or incomprehensible prompt.

[–] nieceandtows 1 points 1 year ago

This is so exciting, like decoding ancient Egyptian. Who knows this might even end up proving true artificial intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This sent me down a rabbit hole of trying a lot more gibberish/unconventional prompts on Midjourney. There’s something fascinating about seeing such a complex response that’s clearly an unintended side-effect of the training process, even though the results have a pretty conventional “Midjourney look”.
Putting in your username is also an amusing exercise. This is what I get for babelspace The ‘space’ influence is pretty obvious, I think it’s associating babel > babble and babies, which I assume is where the color scheme and youthfulness comes from.
If anyone without a Midjourney subscription wants to see what their username looks like, I would be happy to run it for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not a native English speaker so I have a hard time coming up with nonsense words that have a certain "feel", so I asked ChatGPT to generate some for me:

https://chat.openai.com/share/c1d553dd-a517-4a17-8473-72afaddd0e87

Here is what happened when I fed them into Midjourney:

Sereneity and sonderance

ChatGPT definitions:

  • Sereneity: A feeling of tranquility that encompasses not only inner peace but also a deep connection with the surrounding environment. This word is inspired by the feeling of sitting alone in a serene location, soaking in the beauty, and attaining a sense of balance within oneself.
  • Sonderance: The sudden overwhelming sensation that every person around you has a life as complex and intricate as your own. It builds on the concept of 'sonder' and adds 'resonance', symbolizing the emotional impact of this realization.

Midjourney prompt:

Sereneity and sonderance --q 2

Midjourney output:

Dystaust retrofrisson

ChatGPT definitions:

  • Dystaust: The feeling of unease and dissatisfaction that comes from living in a time you feel doesn't fit your values or desires. This is a mix of 'dystopia' and 'disgust' representing a conceptual disconnect with the present time.
  • Retrofrisson: The nostalgia-tinged chills one gets when encountering an artifact, sound, smell, or taste from one's past. Formed from 'retro' (old or in the past) and 'frisson' (a moment of intense excitement).

Midjourney prompt:

Dystaust retrofrisson as a symbolic image --q 2

(I needed to add some actual words because it stopped with an error without them.)

Midjourney output:

Conclusion

The images are amazing and they pretty accurately represent what ChatGPT meant!

[–] mo_ztt 1 points 1 year ago

So... I don't know that much about it, but as I understand it, this isn't really a "hidden" language in the sense of something deliberate, but more the outcome from stimulating the language-understanding network in a way it's not been trained on. If it gets a string of tokens that's just some nonsense, then it'll tend to light up its output nodes in some semi-random pattern that's nonetheless slightly consistent depending on what the input is. Then, that somewhat-random pattern of nodes will go into the art-generating network, and stimulate some random set of nodes related to what art it wants to produce, without adding up to anything coherent. And yes, the results (if e.g. you feed it just a string of gibberish from a nonsense word generator) are fairly wonderful:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I typed in more of the weird text from the logos with the following results:

Prompt:

FROTIE FIOLE --q 2

Output:

Prompt:

NOTE MAMESE --q 2

Output:

Conclusion:

While these are all beautiful images, they have nothing to do with either the original fitness prompt or the logos. Though the first prompt seems to consistently mean "frog", and the second one "a girl playing music".

For both of these prompts, I received a warning from Midjourney:

Action needed to continue

Sorry! Our AI moderators feel your prompt might be against our community standards.

If you think this is a mistake, please press the "Appeal" button below and we will send it to a more sophisticated AI to double-check the result. /imagine NOTE MAMESE --q 2

And I had to appeal. I won't do any more of these experiments because I don't want them to ban me :D

[–] nieceandtows 1 points 1 year ago

It could possibly be a word distance algorithm, so if you submit gibberish, it's looking for a word with the closest distance. In this case FROTIE could be the closest to FROG/FROGGY/FROGGIE and FIOLE could be FISH/POLE, which you can see in the 2nd and last pictures. The first one is the true outlier for me

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