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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Do people really put the veggies underneath the cheese and the meat? Have I been sandwiching wrong my whole life?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe JD Vance turned the camera upside down.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's understandable - how else can he get the media to focus on this sandwich problem?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

The video's reversed, dummy...

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

Absent of any anti-Trump arguments, I'd like to hear the case for Kamala being a truly great President. A few policy positions she, in particular, is notable for?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

There are policy details on her website: https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

But it's pretty simple overall. She's not a maverick, what's on offer is simply the Dem agenda with a younger change of guard. The Dems believe in running the economy from the middle class, because investing in people is how we achieve long-term economic success and improve quality of life. So all her policies are going to be the same they would have been for Obama or Biden: improve social protections, improve access to education, improve access to housing, lower costs of living, make the corporations and wealthy pay their fair shares, pull away from needless wars, strengthen international relationships and create trade agreements of mutual benefit.

She can talk policy until she's blue in the face, but we all should already know exactly what we are getting when we vote for a Democrat. The last time this country had a balanced budget it was Democrat. When we raise the minimum wage, it's a Democrat. When we try to make education more affordable or help those with student debt, it's a Democrat. When we strengthen unions and increase taxes on corporations, it's a Democrat. When we pull out of wars, when we increase social services, when we increase protections for minorities, when we secure our clean water and block chemicals and pesticides in our food and household products, when we raise fuel efficiency standards and make corporations pay for pollution, it's a Democrat.

It baffles me that we have to talk about this stuff like it's new. It's simple and it has been for years:

You want a party that runs the economy like adults, and works for the middle class and the well-being of the people: Democrats.

You want a party that works for the rich and corporations, blows up the budgets recklessly, and thinks the low and middle classes are a resource to be used and drained: Republicans.

While we are on this spicy topic today, someone please remind me, what did Jill Stein do?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

She used to be a prosecutor. That means she can see things from both sides and look at things objectively and not make rash decisions. It's a good quality for a president.

[–] njm1314 6 points 15 hours ago

I mean My Only Hope from her being a prosecutor is that she actually prosecutes crimes, I'm not very hopeful of that especially with her seemingly not wanting to bring back Lena Khan, but I can dream. However normally being a prosecutor would disqualify you for me, good people don't become prosecutors.

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[–] givesomefucks 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

And that's cool...

As long as when people want her to align more closely with the Dem voting base, you don't yell at them for questioning the only option and imply they're trying to help trump.

That bullshit only depresses Dem turnout and actually helps trump.

It's just completely nonsensical to hear all the "moderates" claim they'd vote for anyone not trump, then go feral when someone points out banning fracking would hand the Dems Pennsylvania which trump needs to win the election.

There are multiple issues like that where if Kamala moved to the left she'd lock this election down.

If you truly only care about beating trump, your time online would be more productive trying to pull the party left than trying to pull tens of millions of voters to the right...

With the obvious benefit of getting those popular policies on top of beating trump.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

If it's not been posted already...

https://theintercept.com/2024/09/10/polls-arms-embargo-israel-weapons-gaza/

Banning sales of arms to Israel would not only attract a huge proportion of otherwise reluctant leftists, but might even steal votes from Trump as a small but not insignificant number of voters have been fooled by his 'started no wars' con. The idea that doing so would lose some key demographic is clearly not supported by the data.

But the Democratic strategists are not idiots. They must know this. So one of two things is the case; the polling is wrong, or the Democrats have absolutely no desire to move leftward on this and are willing to risk a Trump win to hold out on their position.

We can rule out the first because if the Democrats had better poll data they'd share it. Nothing to lose by doing so.

So we're left with the second.

Odd then that the online vitriol is delivered not to the Democrats for cynically risking a Trump victory, but to leftists for being opposed to genocide.

[–] givesomefucks 10 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

The idea that doing so would lose some key demographic is clearly not supported by the data.

They wouldn't lose significant voters, theyd lose a bunch of donations...

It doesn't cost a billion plus to beat donald trump, but the more money there is, the bigger everyone's slice is and the bigger the bonuses for personally bringing more money is.

The DNC isn't being run to get Dems in office, it's a fucking grift where sometimes we do get a Dem in office.

Just never one who's political policy matches Dem voters.

Look at current DNC leadership, it's not people that know how to win elections, it's just whoever can bring in the most donations.

The result is ridiculously expensive and incompetent campaigns. The solution is clearing house at the DNC.

[–] PugJesus 3 points 14 hours ago

It doesn’t cost a billion plus to beat donald trump,

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[–] snekerpimp 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe a club, or a ruben. I don’t know about just plain ham.

[–] someguy3 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What if it came with Dijon mustard?

[–] snekerpimp 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] son_named_bort 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't think Mama Cass would vote for a ham sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
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