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[–] wpb 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

If you vote democrat no matter what they do (and voting in spite of the current regime committing a genocide communicates that you will do exactly that), they have no incentive to take your interests at heart, and will move in the direction of the interests of the highest bidder. And this is an observable effect: fairly consistently throughout the years (and this goes back to at least Clinton), the policies and positions of the dems are exactly those of the republicans four years ago, aside from some meaningless posturing and vibes. Look at where we are with the border wall for example, or the children in cages at the border (more now than under Trump), or abortion (FOUR years of a dem president, and nothing has been done, despite promises).

You vote blue no matter who people are flushing your democracy down the drain. For the love of god, make your vote count and vote for something for a change. Vote Jill Stein or Cornell West. Or if you like murdering tens of thousands of innocent children (as we've done under the Biden regime), vote Kamala "most lethal fighting force in the world" Harris. If you're lucky, you might be paying for the murder of Iranian children next.

[–] SirQuackTheDuck 6 points 1 hour ago

Even from across the ocean I can see the shitshow that is your electoral system. Third parties won't work as long as that dumb First Past the Post system is kept up, so you're completely wasting your vote.

The kids will be killed by the Genocidal State of Israel anyway. Your only choice is if you want to watch from a broken system of democracy, or a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Would be nice if that was an option one could take without consequences, but it isn't. Doing that will help Trump.

The system is fucked. As long as it's FPTP and one of the two parties fronts a fascist, you have to vote against the fascist or be complicit in helping fascism.

Sucks to be US-American, but it's true.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

If you're voting for the lesser evil, you are still voting to reduce harm.

Remember that. You can't save everyone, but if you save NO ONE that's on you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you have a problem with this line of reasoning then your actual problem is first past the post voting.

Abolish first past the post voting and you can finally actually vote for things you like, rather than against things you hate, but we're stuck in first past the post voting, so, you must vote strategically.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree 15 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Just curious, do you really expect Republicans or democrats to support legislation to end their stranglehold on American politics?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

"In 2023, 74 bills were introduced supporting ranked-choice voting and 57 of these bills had only Democrat sponsors. In fact, just eight percent of the total bills received bipartisan support."

No, but there's one party that has shown support for it and one party that has attempted to outright ban it.

It's an easy choice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There's one party that pretends to support it publicly as long as they can blame the Republicans for "blocking it".

Ftfy. This is the Democrats go to game plan.

It is insulting to pretend Democrats support ranked choice voting while they're suing to keep it off of the ballot in DC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

There are some democrats that support ranked choice voting.

There are almost no republicans that do.

It is still an easy choice.

[–] RedditWanderer 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Dictatorships are a terrible place to live because the wealth of the nation doesn't depend on the citizens. Illiterate slaves can dig-up a mine.

Democracies on the other hand are better places to live not because the people are better, but because the wealth of the nation is dependend on the productivity of the citizens. That's the only reason you have a highway to the hospital.

Vote in the party you think will enact change, and protest / halt the economy until changes start happening. Right now politicians and corporations don't care nobody is happy, it's not affecting their bottom line. Id argue in recent years they accelerated their abuse because there are no consequences.

The parties in place won't do it themselves, the people need to do it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (9 children)

Every four fucking years of my entire voting lifetime is an influx of liberals that are so horny for voting between the lesser of two evil establishment shits that I want to jump off a cliff in Skyrim every time I have to read this type of divisive rhetoric that literally alienates real people with real concerns who would never support Trump. I wish Harris was as leftist as Trump makes her out to be but noooo "sMaLL bUsinEsEs" and "most LETHAL military" and "the bOrdER bill" and "Isntreal has a right to" suck my fucking glock.

I want to go live with the fucking socialist Linux penguins in Antarctica.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Can’t wait for Blue MAGA to win so they can go to brunch and not do any form of direct action or mutual aid for 4 years while the genocides continue, then shit on leftists for not voting hard enough at the next election.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

"We woulda won if it wasnt for you stinky rotten leftists voting third party!"

-Hilary Clinton (probably)

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[–] douglasg14b 28 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (8 children)

This is exactly why we need ranked choice voting.

Winner takes all essentially demoralizes and alienates voters and drives people who agree with each other to fight because they're trapped in a broken system.

So instead of fighting the system, it's easier to just blame other people and alienate more of them against your cause, shooting yourself in the foot with ignorance. It's kind of disgusting.

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