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I'm pulling for Monday. Friday's already mostly a write-off.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wednesday. Why work for 4 days straight when you could take a break in the middle

[–] Kcs8v6 5 points 3 days ago

IMO I'd take the 3 day break every time. Being able to take the kids to their grandparents for a 3 day weekend, or stay another day on a weekend trip sounds too convenient to pass up.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Super optimistic title there lol

I'm with Cowbee. I don't see this happening outside of a few mom and pop places that decide to do it on their own until "government" forces the change. Just look at the 3 letter jackasses freaking out about WFH.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I was looking for fully remote jobs recently. All the local jobs are back to 3 days in office. One of the recruiters said something like "our employees are happy to go into the office three days a week" and my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago (6 children)
[–] OhmsLawn 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd be so disappointed by this.

Every time I take a day off midweek, it feels like doubling the number of weeks in the week, rather than reducing the number of days.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I've found it precisely the opposite: Monday is like a Thursday (so experientially two Thursdays and two Fridays) with a free day to schedule doctor's appointments, car fixes, and all the other little things you'd normally have to take PTO for but now do not

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[–] Vinny_93 28 points 5 days ago

When I worked 32 hours at my first job I took out the Wednesday. It's a great rhythm to get into, two days of work and a day or two in between.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

Friday only because Garfield would probably have to change to "I hate Tuesdays".

[–] PriorityMotif 9 points 4 days ago

It should be mandatory to stagger it by lottery. That way there's only ~20% of people off on the same day and you can enjoy your day more. I hate going out on weekends because of all of the extra people who are out. Being off on weekdays is great for the most part.

[–] morgan_423 34 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Neither. I'd remove Wednesdays.

Middle of the week off day lets you get all your errands done with little annoyance from or waiting behind the public, so you get everything knocked out and have your weekends 100% for you.

More importantly, on a 4 day workweek with Wed/Weekend off, you NEVER work more than two consecutive days. Ever. It's fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Fuck that. Yeah it means you can stay out later Tuesday, but you can't do jack shit Wednesday knowing that Thursday is coming up. I'd rather have another Saturday than another Sunday if that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

If everyone had Wednesday off you would need to contend with the public though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Judging from the other comments it's not for everyone, but personally I love my Wednesdays off. For me it's mostly about dealing with accumulated fatigue due to a health condition though, and I definitely agree about the errands. When I have lots of medical appointments they're so easy to schedule lol

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The 4 day work week likely won't be established as the standard until Socialism is achieved and the bourgeoisie overthrown, but when that happens it will depend on the job and sector, likely working with different shifts to maintain 24/7 production but with lower workload. Probably a move to a 30 hour work-week, like what PSL suggests.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Don't be so cynical!

The 4 day work week could be established under capitalism so it's easier to have two fulltime jobs. πŸ’€

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

I hate that you're right...

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[–] naught101 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wednesday. I've been doing that for years. It's nice because it feels relaxing and still part of the work week, so still productive.

I can usually swap it for a Monday or Friday with a week or so's notice, if I want to take a long weekend some time.

Also I get more public holidays than if I took Monday off.

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s what I want. 3 days off in a row is nice, but not having to work 3 days in a row sounds amazing

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I used to work a compressed week and started taking Monday but eventually it moved to Friday. When I took Monday off I felt like I had to pay for it with the next four days, when I took Friday it was like I was being rewarded with an early weekend.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

SILENCE, PEASANT!

You will now work Saturday as well!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is that you, Rowan, manager of TechTown?

[–] Nuke_the_whales 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I used to like to work Saturday at my old job. It was overtime pay. Then my provincial government helped corporations and made it so that overtime didn't start until 48 hours a week, killing the incentive to work Saturdays.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Alternating Mondays and Fridays. This gets you alternating two day weekends and 4 day weekends

[–] Subtracty 13 points 5 days ago

This is a cool idea that I didn't consider.

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[–] fireweed 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Crazy thought, but what if it differed by industry? Something like blue collar jobs get Monday off, white collar gets Friday off. That way office workers can for example more easily stay home to get their cable serviced and plumbers can more easily meet with a mortgage agent. Obviously because of overlap it's not perfect (office workers can't meet with mortgage agent, plumbers can't get their cable serviced), but there's a huge issue currently with people working 9-5 M-F being unable to access services that are also only available 9-5 M-F, so this would at least distribute things a little more. (This kind of thing already exists for some industries like restaurants, where W-Su workweeks are common)

[–] NicolaHaskell 5 points 4 days ago

I'm on board with the complementarity objective, but dividing society by collar color is a means for distributing things less. Time barriers reinforce worker segmentation by industry. Different rituals and religious traditions evolve on either side, and Romeo and Juliet are lost in their respective crowds. Convinced their problem is too much work, Four Day Workweek Jesus arrives to champion a revolution towards a three day week, and Four Day Workweek Satan points out that arranging and organizing other people's lives (for free!) has always been in support of the same capitalists that the bleeding heart Christians seem so upset about.

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[–] NickwithaC 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] RizzRustbolt 7 points 5 days ago

It's the smartest option.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales 18 points 5 days ago

Part of me thinks Wednesday. I wouldn't be surprised to see flex schedules more common in a 4 day work week world

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i will probably die of old age by the time we get a 4 day work week (im early 20s)

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[–] f__ 2 points 3 days ago

I have a 4-day work week (32h - fridays off). The 3-day weekend is a game changer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm fighting for a 3-Day work week 20hrs and no more. It can be done.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I save up my vacation every year and take as many Wednesdays off as possible. I prefer the break in the middle of the week. It has done wonders for my mental health and my ability to get shit done while everyone else is busy.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

I also vote Monday. Seems to be easier to get back to work after a Monday holiday vs a Friday holiday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I had both for a while. And somehow Monday's still felt a bit like Monday. So I would go with Friday.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

realistically, if we move to a four-day world week it won't be the same four days for everyone

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[–] tankplanker 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

UK majority of the bank holidays are on a Monday, so Fridays would be nice as otherwise you'd lose them and what would become long weekends now.

UK we are seeing a very slow shift to 4 day weeks for more privileged jobs, I work with two people who both have Fridays off as it's an actual thing you can apply for at my employer.

While the Tories stopped councils from offering 4 day weeks to employees, it's got to be coming back, further spreading its availability.

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[–] AgentGrimstone 3 points 4 days ago

Friday because it's already mostly a write off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Can we do half-days? I would like to take Wednesday afternoon off as well as Friday afternoon. Longer weekend with a little break in the week.

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[–] NicolaHaskell 6 points 5 days ago

There's a lot of optimism in this thread, so if I may imagine Sophie kicking the dust instead of choosing..

Assuming such a thing did happen it'd only happen for a subset of the population, which would then be divided such that one group gets Monday and the other gets Friday while service workers get two more nights of labor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It makes no difference. With Mondays off, Tuesday becomes the new Monday. Fridays off means Thursday starts feeling like Friday.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I have a 4 day work week and love it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

So I work annualised hours, based on a 35hr work week. So summer hour are Mon thru Fri 41hrs total, winter is Mon thru Thurs 31hrs total. I actually like the setup, as a mason I'd actually not mind doing longer hours than we are in the summer and even shorter in the winter, as the weather is too shit in the winter to actually get anything done anyway.

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