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[–] chronicledmonocle 330 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow. It's almost like we've been warning for years that putting backdoors into software, systems, and encryption would allow nefarious parties to exploit them.

[–] gaiussabinus 139 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Think about the children . It will make it easier for police to access instead of doing actual police work and getting a warrant.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well yeah but then they'd have to expand the hiring pool beyond the dumbest jock you knew in high school and those people tend to balk at doing fascism so...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Hey, be fair! They also hire the three bullies who hung out by the bleachers smoking cigarettes.

[–] Lennny 13 points 1 day ago

Sorry, I only think of children during school shootings, it's easier that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

you don't want police to think about children, or atleast I don't.

[–] BMTea 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The FBI is the nefarious party lol

[–] DogWater 1 points 1 day ago

Waco intensifies

[–] [email protected] 146 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

~~China~~ USA hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen then left the door open for anybody else

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And this is why the NSA is supposed to close exploits rather than harvest them for surveillance.

This is why surveillance backdoors are always bad, and you can't math around that.

[–] rottingleaf 3 points 20 hours ago

Can't weasel around math you mean? They don't think they can, it's collateral damage.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago

If the door exists, then it can be opened

[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What?? But the FBI called dibs on that backdoor! /s

It's almost like putting backdoors into software as a whole is a bad idea cause anyone who knows of it can use it, not just "tHe GoOd GuYs"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

cause anyone who knows of it can use it

…and the ones who don't know of it will one day become the ones who know

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This article is getting saved, for the next time some idiot proposes 'lawful backdoors', which will inevitably happen.

[–] Bytemeister 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nervously glances at TPM and TSA approved locks.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I still love the fact that those TSA keys are all available online as 3D files and likely as metal as well

[–] Draconic_NEO 2 points 21 hours ago

I just went and looked, set of multiple TSA master keys for sale online, numbered with which ones they are the master keys for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Those locks are kinda optional. And luggage is way less important than all of one's communication ; imho.

[–] Draconic_NEO 2 points 21 hours ago

The bad part is when people take a luggage lock and use it for their Gym locker, or the locker at the pool. Somewhere that really REALLY shouldn't be using a weak lock with a readily available master key.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Oh absolutely, but it does do something that I'm not sure people realize: it normalizes the idea of a government agent holding the keys to all of your stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I know for a fact you can get a metal set for a few dollars plus shipping.

[–] NegativeLookBehind 72 points 1 day ago

Omg the back doors work for anyone who can gain access to them??? Shocked-pikachu.jpg

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Article author struggles with clean links

https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/u-s-wiretap-systems-targeted-in-china-linked-hack btw

The pioneers of this dirty business were overwhelmingly founded by ex-Israeli signals intelligence personnel,

That's interesting. Must be a coincidence.

and related Clinton-era initiatives, like the failed Clipper Chip program, which would have put a spy chip in every computer, and, eventually, every phone and gadget:

"Don't worry, guys we tried to backdoor all devices but failed, see?"

Meanwhile, Intel ME, AMD "Secure Processor", and ARM "TrustZone":

[–] rottingleaf 3 points 19 hours ago

That’s interesting. Must be a coincidence.

Kinda coincides in time with Israel becoming less of a normal West-aligned state and more of a spoiled child whom everyone pats, not very well-behaving at that.

Though TBH this was the case under Reagan too. It's just that there's difference between support for Israel and Israel's penetration back.

[–] Draconic_NEO 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I think you should watch this Great Video by CCC,de on Intel ME it has some great facts and information on the deal with IntelME without all the fearmongering and conspiracy theories other videos and blogs usually pump out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That link is a 404 for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Same. The OP article is interesting, but was hoping for more than a few wiki links of past instances. Is there more verifiable evidence for this instance? Don't doubt the claim, just curious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dawg

Edit: y'all no fun

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember them trying to get Apple to put in a back door as well

[–] horse_battery_staple 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only Apple can use that data for profit! Now the Alphabet agencies just buy that data from brokers..... I just realized how funny the parent company to Google name change is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Dang, you're right! It's like noticing the arrow in fedex

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just realized how funny the parent company to Google name change is.

Thank you for this sentence, I thought you were talking about Google, YouTube, etc at first

[–] KonalaKoala 1 points 1 day ago

At least they were not talking about Lemmy, Mastodon, etc. like someone is trying to screw up the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That was a psyop my man

Got normies super comfortable ;)

[–] aluminium 21 points 1 day ago

Can't buy Huawei Networking gear, if we get hacked it has the be through our own backdoor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

@db0 works as intended

[–] Korkki 1 points 1 day ago

nice, that'll tech them.