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[–] fluckx 44 points 4 hours ago

What could go wrong when you let an ad company dictate the browser standards/rules.

I know we have Firefox and some forks like librewolf, but percentage wise it feels like a lost battle ( even if I am on Firefox ).

If only people switched en masse to Firefox for the ad blocker. Wouldn't that be something... One big collective FU to Google.

Oh well. One can dream I guess.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] kokesh 43 points 7 hours ago (11 children)

And what? If someone can live with ads, they can stay. Otherwise anyone can install Firefox. I was all-in Google since the beginning of Gmail. And switching to Firefox was completely painless. Everything works the same, times of website incompatibility are long gone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

What if websites decide that chrome users earn much more ad revenue and start forcing users to switch with those "This website only supports Chrome" error messages? What if this practice gets popular? I'm sure there are ways to get around it, but the average users who bothered switching to Firefox at all, will just conclude that anything except chrome has a bad browsing experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Can't you have your Firefox browser just report itself as chrome?

[–] PriorityMotif 1 points 1 hour ago

Then apple would whip out their giant throbbing cock and smack them with it because they want people using safari.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Because Google is trying to turn the internet into a walled garden where only people with Chrome can visit the majority of websites.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 6 points 5 hours ago

Maybe part of the monopoly ruling will have chrome taken away from them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (13 children)

I've been been a full time Firefox user for three years now. Haven't experience a single problem like that. Haven't really experienced any problem at all to be honest

[–] TheGrandNagus 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that has not been the case for me. Some sites for buying concert tickets don't seem to like Firefox.

I've had problems with several Microsoft sites we use internally for work ever since Edge went to Chrome.

It's not Firefox's fault. Mozilla is abiding by web standards.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago

If you find any websites that don't work with firefox, you should report them to Mozilla. Firefox has a list of known bad websites, and has fixes for them, usually just a user agent override.

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[–] ikidd 10 points 6 hours ago

times of website incompatibility are long gone

I wish I could agree with that. Hell, I have to use Chrome to download my phone bill from Virgin, and a couple of others don't work.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming FF. It's these lazy web developers that only target Chrome. I'm sure Safari users get the same shit experience.

[–] GreenKnight23 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

times of website incompatibility are long gone.

cries in dev

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[–] nl4real 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How many times has this been announced already?

[–] ByteMe 6 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully wikipedia recognizes this as the official Canary in the Chrome mine. I was first impressed with chrome book because of seeing them used for education, getting my own laptop during school would've been mindblowing to kid me. I was unimpressed with the strangulation process of the OS but again shocked when they added a linux boot mode. There needs to be better alternatives by now, I would be ok with an OS developed by the department of education in conjunction with higher educational institutions. Could have a decent non-profit approach to a browser and ad blockers could legitimately be built in as a "protect the children" aim of approach.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed 9 points 7 hours ago

I take it you've never been involved in such an endeavor? What you propose would take a decade a minimum due to the sheer number of nested advisory committees that would be required for those groups to interface. Better a non-profit group begins the work and then solicits these group's input at the design stage.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

We've known this was coming for a while now . . . but I suppose not everyone reads tech news.

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[–] IzzyJ 3 points 5 hours ago

Can we get a fork orba dedicated browser that stays on manifest v2? Even Firefoxs lack of plans is disconcerting. I want expmicit plans to not play along

[–] [email protected] 188 points 11 hours ago (25 children)
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