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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 15 points 1 day ago

So this is one of those articles they wrote to get people to hate read and then the engagement gets people to read their failing website?

[–] 2pt_perversion 169 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is an older story. The narrative that it failed because it was too good is false. It was a private equity leveraged buyout that doomed it. The company got saddled with like 8x debt with a lot of that money going to dividends for the PE firm.

The product and the brand were strong enough that they've been sold to a different firm in the bankruptcy. If they are competently managed they should be fine.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

The lede is buried at the end.

The problem is how the debts got there in the first place—in pursuit of growth for its own sake, of increased output with no clear needs that the new output would address.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What i still don't quite understand with these kind of buyouts is who lends them the money and who gets saddled with the debt? Surely banks know the drill and wouldn't want to borrow and hold debt for a company destined to fail in such a way.

Do banks get repaid before that happens and the only people being owed are small contractors and employees? Does the bank repackage the debt and sell it to someone else? Or are the interest payments high enough to just factor in losing part of the money borrowed with high certainty?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I’m guessing D) All of the above.

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[–] Dorkyd68 56 points 1 day ago (6 children)

My instant pot is amazing. Everyone i know has one. How did they fail??

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a theory that shitty products fundamentaly out-compete good products today because its way cheaper to market your product as good than to actually develop it well. I call it the craptocracy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I want to see craptocracy trend so hard that it makes it into spellcheckers.

[–] tararity 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When everyone already has one, no one needs to buy it anymore

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The George Foreman machine is still my "peak design". And yet nobody owns one after everyone burned out on it from oversaturation.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 day ago

They still sell panini press grills. It's generally a bachelor pad thing though.

[–] Aermis 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone needs to create a business that bails out/buys excellent quality products and produces them in a small enough scale that only new owners will need.

Consider it an excellent achievement for a product to make it here. Only the best buy it for life products.

[–] Omodi 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone needs to destroy private equity.

[–] T156 5 points 23 hours ago

And the concept of infinite growth.

Financially, if your company is not expanding an increasing amount quarter on quarter on quarter, it's considered to be failing.

And yet, nothing can grow forever. At some point, all things must come to an end. It's an unrealistic pipe dream.

Say that the Instant Pot is so good that everyone has ten of them. Where would they grow from there?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

FTFA:

A few years and one pandemic later, the company filed for bankruptcy on Monday,

It's also in a bunch of comments already

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The product didn't fail, American business culture failed.

they should have worked this into the title:

"A company needs to grow.

In the past few decades, the idea that every company should be growing, predictably and boundlessly and forever, has leached from the technology industry into much of the rest of American business."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand this. What is wrong with a stable company that maintains its size?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The thing wrong with a stable company is that it doesn't afford those at the top uncontrollable, disproportionate influence and profit.

American business culture disdains stable companies that maintain their size.

American business culture advocates for and promotes unlimited expansion and profit increase above all else, which is obviously unsustainable and distracts from creating good products or social benefit If you put a moment of thought into it, and benefits the one or few at the top while exploiting everybody else.

When that venture inevitably fails, the winners at the top get to exploit their ill-gotten profit to influence culture at large, radicalize the exploited and propagate the exploitative system.

The winners are shuffled around, and continue making obscene profit from each successive top position at the expense of their society, simultaneously creating and breaking laws to further their selfish, unsustainable gain.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Private equity destroying another productive company.

[–] chonglibloodsport 16 points 1 day ago

The founders knew what they were doing. This was their way of cashing out some of the company while continuing to run it. All of the private equity tricks are designed to avoid paying taxes in the process.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wtf is this? You can still buy them and other instant pot products on Amazon. Not to mention they still sell well. I have had mine and use it almost daily for 5 years and the seals are still good. Easy to clean, easy to use.

[–] Tikiporch 2 points 1 day ago

Once everyone had their instant pots that are really reliable and rarely break, instant had to come up with something else to sell and make money. In the pursuit of that, they made a lot of bad choices, including taking on debt, and didn't find the same success they had with instant pot.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

The biggest failure here is the number of people who obviously didn't read the article. Why comment if you don't know what you're actually commenting about? Is this the writing equivalent to loving the sound of your own voice?

Edit: I can't believe my latest most controversial take is "maybe don't discuss what an article says unless you read it first". Just can't make this shit up.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry I tried but I'm not making an account to read an article

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw 2 points 12 hours ago

That's fine but, if you don't read the article, don't comment on it like you did. I'm not suggesting that's what you did, but that's clearly what many people here did.

P.s. use 12ft.io and archive.ph to get around pay walls.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pay wall after 3 paragraphs

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw 0 points 12 hours ago

If there's a pay wall and you don't use something like 12ft.io or archive.ph to get around it, just don't comment. There's no requirement to comment and those that do so without knowing what the article is actually about are providing commentary on their imaginations.

[–] remer 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does everybody here have an atlantic subscription or did nobody actually read the paywalled article?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is a mirror. The OG was on pushed off GitHub due to DMCA bullshit and now lives on GitFlic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks for linking the original!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep. I've had mine for 6 years and it's still incredible. Luckily compatible sealing rings are still available from 3rd party vendors. Makes great Greek Yogurt, Chicken Soup, and Steel Cut Oats. And of course , it can make so much more.

It sucks that when you make something this good, you're destined to put yourself out of business, meanwhile planned obsolescence works...

[–] MehBlah 8 points 1 day ago

I guess I didn't get the memo. Mine gets regular use.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sadly I lack an account for the Atlantic, but I am going to assume that they were bought out.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

They got toys R us'd by corporate bookeeping shenanigans where they take debt from other companies and dump it all into one business which destroys it.

Articles that lie to me like this make me want to punch the author in their momma smoocher.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Thank you most kindly! I have never heard of that website and am bookmarking it for the future!

[–] solrize 9 points 2 days ago

Iirc they went broke because their first product was a huge hit, so they followed up with a bunch of useless crap that nobody bought.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I can recommend the Sage/breville "fast and slow go 6L" cooker if you cannot or don't want to get the instant pot. I have had mine for 2 years now and its solid build and i have used it a lot. Makes excellent youghurt and risotto among others.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The thing is, these are just a pressure vessel with a timer and a heating element. They are all good unless they are very poorly made.

[–] Brunbrun6766 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Theyre all good until they are bombs, then they're pretty good bombs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So are water heaters and we use those pretty confidently.

Pressure cookers get a bad reputation for safety from the times when they were basically a metal box with a tiny hole in it, but modern cookers have a lot of additional redundancies. Particularly modern ones with timers. It'd take a lot of work to get one of those to go catastrophically. It's more likely to get killed by lighting than by pressure cooker, at least in the US, and as far as I can tell from available stats, and most of the pressure cooker injuries the stats list are from people who got a contact or steam burn, not by explosions.

It's also interesting that people are often afraid of exploding pressure cookers when they think of them as pressure cookers, but you don't get as much anxiety from rice cookers (AKA pressure cooker - but small).

[–] davidgro 12 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Every dedicated rice cooker I've seen has a permanently open vent. They aren't pressurized.

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