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Just started getting this now. Hopefully it's some A/B testing that they'll stop doing, but I'm not holding my breath
I love that society is basically stratifying into groups based on tech knowledge - it all seems very Cyberpunk.
As someone with technical knowledge sometimes I get locked out of things because I block ads or refuse Javascript. For instance, I had to turn off my pihole so I could sign into my Microsoft account to play Minecraft. Or the times I encounter a website that breaks on Firefox.
The Microsoft Minecraft login thing is getting pretty insane.
The worst part was that it just showed a black window, with no controls or indication of what was wrong. Thankfully this sort of thing happens so often my first reaction is to turn off my pihole for a few minutes.
If you're getting locked out of those things, those things are not worth using
I'm pretty sure my divorce lawyer's document management system is something that's worth using even if I have to use chrome and disable ad blocking.
The more technology pervades society the more pronounced this will get. The sheer helplessness of people when faced with problems that seem trivial to some is scary. Especially when you see people losing final theses or critical work related data because they never learned about backups.
Add to that tech companies trying to hide the concept of a file system, and it seems like this is by design to sell more shit.
No offense intended, but why are you still using Google? Startpage has anonyomized results from Google. DuckDuckGo is good enough for most people as well. Brave search also exists if you don't mind supporting that shitty company.
I know this may come off as a surprise: but I imagine that requiring JS in 2024 isn't a big deal to most people.
Now of course Lemmy skews more into that small crowd.
I don't blame any website for requiring JS for full functionality in 2024.
Google is a text input and a list of links. It should work without JS.
All of the people replying to this saying you shouldn't need JS are totally unaware how modern web development works.
Yes, you could do many sites without JS, but the entire workforce for web development is trained with JS frameworks. To do otherwise would slow development time down significantly, not allow for certain functionality to exist (functionality you would 100% be unhappy was missing).
Its not a question of possibility, its a question of feasibility.
My question is if it wasn't required before and is required now, what changed? It's not like Google has added a killer feature recently - this is almost certainly related to those shitty AI answers that are forcing your actual search results even further down the page than they were already.
For full functionality sure. For basic functionality no. Searching on Google is basic functionality I'd say.
I hate how these kinds of messages never explain WHY. It's just "Do it. Do what we tell you." 💀
BOW TO YOUR MASTERS, AND SUCK OUR DICK!!!!
I remember 10 years ago looking at a calculator app in the android app store, and seeing the permissions. And thinking "WHY THE FUCK DOES A CALCULATOR NEED MY LOCATION, AND ACCESS TO MY PHONE CONTACTS???"
Fuck THAT.
For ads, tracking and spying of course.
Probably because 99.999% of users already use JS and dedicating a web page to it is already more work than they needed to put into it
I think it's just to avoid explaining why, and how they harvest your data. That said, I also hate how a lot of errors of the big corpo are just like "This site has an error" no error-code, no further feedback what to do etc.
Google is no longer a Search Engine. It is a commerce/purchase search. It's nothing more than ads and corporate results to purchase goods & services. Google Shopping has taken over Google.
Yep. I use Noscript and DDG Lite by default. Just putting into duckduckgo: !g will search google without having to turn JS on...looks like Duckduckgo wins again, even when it comes to using google, lol.
I like the SearX search engine. It gives old-school, relevant search results, not google ranked ones.
It's also spread out over many separate instances, so you can pick the one that best suits your search needs:
DuckDuckGo doesn't ;)
By the way, in my browser, the title of this post shows up as
Google now requires Javascript in c/mildlyinfuriating
which shocked me a little.
I've been happy with Qwant lately, they have their own index so using them doesn't support the Google + Bing hegemony. They're also EU based and regulated by the gdpr.
Who still uses Google? DDG has been way better for a long while now. Join the duck side.
The vast majority of humanity still uses Google. DDG is basically unheard of outside of tech enthusiast circles.
You're still using Google search?
Sometimes, yeah. My default is DDG, and I also use Kagi, but Google is still good at some stuff. Guess I'll take the hit and just stop using it completely though. Kagi has been good enough, and also lets me search the fediverse for finding that dank meme I saw last week. Google used to be able to do that, but can't shove as many ads in those queries I assume, so they dropped that ability.
I might be out of my depth here, but isn't like virtually the entire internet powered by Javascript? What are the negative implications for Google requiring JS?
A lot of the web is powered by JS, but much less of it needs to be. Here's a couple of sites that are part of a trend to not unnecessarily introduce it:
The negative implications for Google requiring JS is that they will use it to track everything possible about you that they can, even down to how you move your cursor, or how much battery you have left on your phone in order to jack up prices, or any other number of shitty things.
Htmx does use javascript under the hood, but just makes it so the developer can use html markdown for more a more interactive environment that's driven sever side. So the initial page load should render, but UI elements might not work as intended.
htmx is more a move back to REST as it was originally defined (aka not json backend).
Use LibreX or a fork called LibreY, it's a JS-free proxy for Google search
There's a list of instances at https://librey.org/instances.php
Something similar exists for DuckDuckGo btw, it's called 4get
Or you can just use SearXNG, a meta search engine that aggregates results from multiple sources
Use any of the following:
There are so many alternatives
I'm just kind of surprised Google still worked without JS up until now. The people who don't have Javascript enabled are such a tiny sliver of market share that Google may as well serve them a broken web page.
I think Duckduckgo still supports searching without Javascript, though you may need to wait for a meta refresh when you use the standard search engine integration, so make sure you use the right URL in your search engine settings.
<form method="GET" action="https://duckduckgo.com/">
<input name="q" type="text"/>
<button type="submit">Go</button>
</form>
This is a fully functional search bar. This is all it needs to be. It doesn't need Javascript, only if you want suggestions.
The last time I checked, Google still works if you simply pass your query in the URL using the q variable. Google has no need to enforce Javascript.
Just use SearXNG.