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Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

why isn't he arrested already? I wish I had similar privileges, where I could break laws (thst don't violate human rights ofc.), make a shitload of money and travel the world freely.

[–] Azamandriel 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now if they would actually take action.

[–] pingveno 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they'll pass another strongly worded resolution.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Which the USA will find a way to veto or Israel will continue to ignore it.

[–] pingveno 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The latter. The US only has a veto in the Security Council. Though even that isn't entirely unconditional. Recently it abstained on a vote about a cease fire resolution, leading to much entitled complaining from Israel.

[–] cley_faye 13 points 6 days ago

We've always been good at walking away, closing our ears, turning a blind eye…

[–] [email protected] 209 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He is such a fucking scumbag. Fuck him and fuck the rest of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Looking at the protests against him in Israel I think many if not most Israelis don't want this campaign of violence. For many years I've felt sorry for all the civilians in that area, because they are trying to live their lives and extremist assholes on all sides keep killing them.

[–] nul9o9 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Settlers can go fuck themselves though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Absolutely. They are extremist assholes.

[–] hark 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The protests aren't against his policy of genocide in Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are against his government in general and started before his campaign of terror and I have seen no poll that would suggest sudden approval. So we can safely assume the protesters include that in their disapproval of him and his government of fascist cunts.

[–] hark 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The protests happened after but they don't seem to advocate a change in that campaign of terror, just different people carrying it out. The far right dominates Israeli politics and it's all about which flavor of far right is preferred.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There were protests even before October, because a large portion of Israelis hates that government.

[–] hark 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But, again, not for the treatment of Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What is your point? That all Israelis fully support the wholesale slaughter the IDF is committing? It seems so weird and pointless to continue to argue about this.

[–] hark 0 points 5 days ago

I responded to someone claiming that there have been protests against this campaign of violence. It's useful to know where everybody stands to know who would be willing to move toward peace.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 140 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

[–] gnomesaiyan 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

All candidates steer clear away from condemning Israel because they know they’ll lose votes if they do. Sounds like this one is on the people.

[–] Zorque 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that's part of the problem. There's elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we'd actually see some effective change.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It's ridiculous that there's effectively only two parties, and it's ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run

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[–] WhatAmLemmy 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

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[–] wolfeh 138 points 1 week ago (4 children)

including scores of women and children

This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but... that's always seemed weird to me.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It makes for a more defensible argument. No sane person is going to argue that a 4 year old child is an enemy combatant. But a 20 year old male? It's easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatant and so maybe the numbers are inflated. Saying 1000 people can be interpreted as 999 enemies and only 1 civilian casualty. Saying 1000 women and children is usually interpreted as 1000 innocent lives lost.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true, but super fucked that women get the innocence of children and men are assumed to be not innocent in any situation.

Life is harsh when you're a guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given the Israeli position on military rape, it's just a different flavor of attrocity.

[–] drunkpostdisaster 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 6 days ago

And they kill women.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 14 points 1 week ago

But a 20 year old male? It’s easy to argue they could have been an enemy combatan

The age old problem of "excess males" solved by declaring open season on anyone with facial hair.

[–] Evrala 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

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[–] Maalus 17 points 1 week ago

Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children "sounds" worse than "people" dying.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good point, them leaving says I don’t want to be involved not that I want to stop the injustice.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This might matter in ten years if Netanyahu hangs.

[–] demizerone 46 points 1 week ago

That sack of shit should have been arrested.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Cool. Now do something that stops him. Going for a coffee won't save lives.

[–] Badeendje 100 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

The UN is a forum for dialogue. Expecting the UN to do something other than either say stuff or help by mandate supported by countries just shows you don't understand what their purpose is.

Walking out in this case sends the message. If these countries want to do something about it they can, other countries might intervene on Israëls behalf. The UN provides a forum to discuss this kind of stuff. So countries don't end up in wars they did not want.

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