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I posted about this 3 months ago and it was $750--glad to see the measure is going for it. The $1,600 is per person, not household. Minors count.

Large corps ($25m in revenue minimum) pay.

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[–] Bustedknuckles 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm for UBI at the federal level, but everything I've read/heard about the details of 118, including from my tax lawyer sister, is that it's terribly written and would be bad policy as a result. We've had some wacky referendums in Oregon over the years, a lot of naive good intentions. I'll probably have to dust off my reading glasses for the text of 118, because if we try UBI and it fails, it'll be a warning example to discourage everyone else - the same way that the decriminalization-without-recovery-support was

[–] Atropos 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is a good call - I will be digging into this before making up my mind.

[–] bluemellophone 3 points 2 weeks ago

I’ve heard from multiple places that the text of the bill has some pretty big drawbacks, specifically enough that the governor has come out against it. I can understand the impact to businesses but it has such clear social benefits.

If the text is bad, let the legislatures pass an amendment or a new measure for us to vote on. They bungled the drug decriminalization rollout so I’m not ready to let them kill another good policy. I refuse to throw in the towel on progressive policies. Let’s do referendums every year and force the change the people or Oregon want.

[–] Atropos 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Kinda-sorta UBI. Seems like a good way to show the positives of such a program to the whole country.

[–] pdxfed 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yup. Just like pandemic payments, only this time not borrowing against national debt, just sharing profits--only unlike pandemic stimulus payments this has no income restrictions.

[–] Fades 7 points 1 week ago

God I love living in a blue state, especially Oregon ❤️