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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20593353

By Imran Mulla in Liverpool, United Kingdom Published date: 22 September 2024

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this and macron creating a conservative government despite leftists winning the most votes in france makes me wonder if a leftist victory is ever possible.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not through liberal "democracies" no, where the entire point is to keep capitalists in power. Unionizing and organizing for a revolution has always been the only way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The much bigger problem is the apathy and stupidity of the average person.

Every single person in Western countries has enough information to see through the bullshit of the political class and they have the power to vote them out. But they don't. They don't want to be bothered by actually taking responsibility, they just want someone else to blame. Jews, immigrants, gays, doesn't matter.

Many will argue with propaganda, but most of the propaganda is extremely blatant. You'll only believe it, if you want to believe it. It may solidify resentments, but it won't create them out of nowhere.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab 3 points 1 week ago

The Labor Party has banned the word "baddies" from their conference.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

just don't talk about it and it doesn't exist :)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago

It's literally pollicital correctness gone mad.

Doesn't matter. Talk about talk about war crimes and state enforced segregation.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA 16 points 1 week ago

If I plug my ears and go ‘lalalalalalala I can’t hear you’ then nothing bad is happening.

UK Labour party

[–] Aceticon 13 points 1 week ago

Zero surprise in seeing the hard Neoliberals of New Labour siding with ethno-Fascists and silencing criticism of it even from their own party members.

For those who didn't follow it, some years ago the Labour membership elected an actual Leftie to lead the Party - Jeremy Corbyn - overthrowing decades of total control of the party by the New Labour faction (who are hard Neoliberals, not Leftwing, and whose policies were at one point deemed by none other that Margaret Thatcher as "my greatest achievement") and what followed was a massive slander campaign, mainly using accusations of anti-semitism anchored on statements from Israeli linked Jewish organisations, even at one point with New Labour faction politicians relentlessly keeping on the slander campaign during an election causing Labour to lose it, something they then claimed as being because Corbyn was "unelectable", until they finally managed to bring down Corbyn and restore power to the New Labour faction who promptly went on a purge of the Labour part of any overltly Leftwing members.

Fast-forward to present times and the Neoliberals who now control the Labour party have a huge debt to the Zionists, hence their support of their Genocide (and the recent "we're blocking some arm sales" announcement only "blocked" 20 out of 300 kinds, and was clearly just the the usual theatre so typical in UK politics)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Labor party is y'all's conservative dominant party?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Labour (with a u since it’s a proper noun from the UK) is named after trade unions; they’re the progressive party

[–] RubicTopaz 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So like the dems, they're supposed to be marginally less fascist than the opposition

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Aceticon 5 points 1 week ago

They try really hard to make the difference de facto as small as possible whilst being loudly theatrical about how "different they are" to make it seem as big as possible.

It's why for example in the US you get loud outrage about some stupid teenagers posting a photo were they spell the N-word, but nowhere the same outrage about kids in poor inner city neighbourhoods not having anywhere the same chances in life as the rest because schools there are shit or having significantly lower life expectation because for poor people food is shit, houses are shit, healthcare is shit, even the mattresses they sleep on are shit - all of which are things which disproportionatelly impact minorities and are the mechanisms via which racism shapes lives and causes suffering 24/7.

Again and again make clown shows of morons being morons (and there are always morons) so as to avoid addressing the actual ways in which people are oppressed because those are all about money and one can't negativelly impact the wealth and what the priviledges it buys, and if there's one thing where both the Fascists and the Marginally-Less-Fascist are exactly the same is making sure the wealthy remain wealthy and can derive maximum priviledges of it, with zero concern for all those who must suffer for it to be so, minority members or otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The leftmost in an array of rightwing parties, anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about the greens? They sound lefty

[–] Aceticon 5 points 1 week ago

At least back when I lived in the UK the Greenparty were the only national party which was Leftwing, though I believe nations other than England did had more mainstream left of center parties.

I was actually a member of the Greenparty until I left the UK following Brexit and at least the people in my local are were trully well intentioned people though quite naive (IMHO). Then again in the UK I worked for almost a decade in Finance - which was pretty much Sociopath-Central - so maybe it was me being significantly more cynical and skeptical than average rather than them being more naive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tores, torries, torees? Is the other one right?

[–] Feathercrown 1 points 1 week ago

Tories yeah

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Conference in the Zone Of Interest.

[–] jimmy90 4 points 1 week ago

UK Labour Party managers blocked the words "genocide" and "apartheid" in reference to Israel's conduct against Palestinians from being used in brochures at a side event during its annual conference in Liverpool.