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I wanted to try paying for Mullvad VPN using a private method (Monero). I created a wallet and went to an exchange (Kraken) to buy some XMR, but they want me to enter all my personal details upon registration. How does this make sense? Is there an exchange where I don't have to provide personally identifying information?

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[–] slazer2au 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are bound by anti money laundering laws (AML) and are required to Know Your Customers (KYC).
https://support.kraken.com/hc/en-us/articles/know-your-customer-kyc-questionnaire

Yes it does compromise privacy because now when the exchange is asked who owns this wallet they have to hand your details to law enforcement.

Exchanges without KYC are getting rarer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

I avoid KYC exchanges at all cost. I am less concerned about law enforcement in this case and much more about leaks.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

There are ways to get Monero without compromising your identity. I suggest looking or asking here: https://monero.town/c/monero

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The exchange will see that you bought Monero. They won't see how you spent it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Unless you pay from the exchange's wallet

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, what do you expect?

Use P2P instead

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm just learning about all this. Looks like P2P is what I want. Thanks

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Offer a product/service on XMRBazaar, join the Get Your First XMR matrix room and then once you have at least 0.11XMR you can use Haveno

[–] LobsterScuttle 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pardon my lack of knowledge, what is P2P? Is it mining monero?

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 3 points 3 weeks ago

Instead of having a central server, consumers interact with each other directly. That's P2P Vs centralization.

[–] Death_Equity 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In America, you "have to" due to government regulation(IRS wants their cut of the tendies).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Even more so, FBI wants to know where the money grandma gave to get her pictures back from the ransomware went.

All this money tracking stuff AFAIK was originally more about organized crime than tax revenue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Not all of America has these laws.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

bisq or I think local Montero are no kyc. just send some dude some money through like PayPal and they'll send you the monero

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Localmonero died recently :( Haveno is the one that is taking its place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It was soon after Samourai arrests, so apparently the owners got scared of potential cryptocurrency crackdown and legal pressure. Its closure was pretty abrupt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

here's an i2p magnet link to the irs chain analysis talk from last year:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d371d4e4cb9a3760ef79e94fde0b8edf22062e49&tr=http://tracker2.postman.i2p/announce.php&dn=chainalysis-monero-presentation-to-irs-august-2023.av1.webm

gives some insight into how they do it with their analysis tool. i'll let you draw your own conclusions based on your own risk profile, but if you're a target and they have enough confidence with the tool, they could grow a profile and subpoena the target exchange for kyc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

No, it makes no sense. Keep looking. Worst case, buy some locally for cash.