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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Nothing bad will happen, as long as they spare no expense.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's all fun and games until you're being chased down in your Jeep by a dodo.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The lesson there is: Spare no expense on your IT budget!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Your financial problems are not my concern!

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[–] TomMasz 82 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The world they lived in is long gone along with the food they ate and the rest of their species. It seems almost cruel to bring them back.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not that long gone—the last relict population on Wrangel Island only died out about 4000 years ago. That's (barely) within historic time. There are probably islands in the Canadian and Siberian Arctic that could still support them (and have no or few human inhabitants).

I see two big issues. First of all, not all knowledge among elephants is transmitted genetically, and I expect mammoths were the same. Who will the new ones learn from? They'll have to redevelop best practices for dealing with their environment from scratch.

Secondly, global warming. This seems like about the worst possible time to bring back an ice-age-adapted critter. We'd be better off transferring the effort spent on this project into de-extincting the thylacine, a more recent loss which doesn't have that specific issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m fairly certain they are working on the thylacine as well?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Different group, I think, and not as close to success. The thylacine has a better chance at long-term survival if we do bring it back, though—it isn't an ice age creature, and it was surviving despite competition from other creatures in a similar niche until humans started aggressively hunting it down.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not that long gone. There were still mammoths around when the pyramids were built. Plus there's still huge swaths of tundra and taiga that they could live on, with a lot of the same plants, even if it's quite a bit warmer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the grand scheme of things the pyramids were built relatively recently, but I'd still consider it quite long ago

[–] stoly 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Measured in human life it’s long ago. measured at universal scales, it was nothing.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not advocating for restoring the mammoth, but this is a dangerous line of argument.

With climate change and ongoing mass extinctions, many current species are or will soon be in the same situation that re-introduced mammoths would be—and you could use the same argument to say that trying to preserve them is cruel so we should kill off any current species facing environmental stress.

[–] Paraponera_clavata 9 points 1 month ago

They were here pretty recently, their food is still here. It was cruel that we extincted them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well pumpkins and avocados still exists at least and apparently they were grazers.

[–] stoly 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah. It’s still the same place. They died out within the time frame of completely modern humans.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I've said this a million times before, but if we're playing gods anyway, can't we make them dog sized also?

I would totally get one or maybe two.

[–] makyo 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah you say that until you get a tusk in the crotch

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They'll be wearing stylish pool noodles on the tusks to minimize furniture and gonad damage.

Or we create them with softer tusks. Maybe that's better, the. They'll also be worthless to poachers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't want to live in a world that has wooly mammoths with floppy tusks. It just seems wrong.

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[–] vegeta 38 points 1 month ago

I hope they have put a substantial amount of thought into potential problems that could arise. (Not that it will actually be like JP)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hope whatever species that comes after us doesn't bring us back

[–] samus12345 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No! They did it! They blew it up!

And then the apes blew up their society too. How could this happen?

And then the birds took over and ruined their society.

And then the cows. And then...I don't know, is that a slug, maybe?

Noooo!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But why? We have no iceage anymore.

[–] Zron 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Obviously for the local petting zoo

Plus, mammoth burgers

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[–] ME5SENGER_24 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Tudsamfa 5 points 1 month ago

There are about 2000 wild tiger left, I found this article from 2011 saying that they might be extinct in the wild by 2030.

So there might be 2000 ecological niches for smilodon to fill in 5 years. We better hurry then.

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[–] theDutchBrother 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should"

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[–] Raiderkev 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember reading about this in 5th grade. 25 fucking years ago. I'll believe it when I see it..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

just like nuclear fusion, it was 10 years away 10 years ago, it's 10 years away now and it will be 10 years away 10 years from now

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Everything outside of cities should be a nature reserve and we should clone extinct megafauna to put in zoos

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Enjoy eating rocks, I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe in 100 years, with how underfunded research in vertical farming is.

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[–] Tudsamfa 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
  • Step 1: acquire genetic material
  • Step 2: supplement material with closely related extant species <- We are here
  • Step 3: Get an egg cell with your Frankenstein-DNA to survive and divide
  • Step 4: Produce a healthy baby
  • Step 5: Get a small population in a Zoo/Park
  • Step 6: have a permanent wild population in a specific area
  • Step 7: have enough of those areas to declare repopulation a success

Is fixating on the mammoths here first-world centrism? The article mentions 4 other species that have way better chances. Also, given how far we are from actual wild mammoths, that "it can solve climate change" argument is just wrong the way it's been presented.

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[–] iAvicenna 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we have no idea what happens next

Make a variant with multiple butts

[–] Treczoks 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or make is exactly the size on the picture, where the mammoth fits in a petri dish.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have an idea: Mammoth burgers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Worked in the docudrama "the Flintstones"

[–] Bookmeat 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Poachers. Poachers are next.

[–] Noodle07 5 points 1 month ago

We bringing poachers to extinction?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope it's pet pygmy mamoths

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[–] simplejack 6 points 1 month ago
[–] JustZ 6 points 1 month ago

"We have no idea what happens next."

Scientists: we know almost exactly what will happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So we're talking about de-extinction at a time when 70% of the planet's biodiversity has been lost in the last 50 years?

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[–] atrielienz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Does anyone else feel like this is irresponsible? Like, I get it, humans have been destroying the ecosystems of endangered and extinct animals for awhile now. But the world is actively warming up. And even if this is successful, how do we create enough of them to survive and procreate without defects etc. And where the hell will they live? I just have some concerns.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That’s crazy cause I think it’ll be here tomorrow

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