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Kroger insists that “any test of electronic shelf tags is to lower prices more for customers where it matters most. To suggest otherwise is not true.” For some reason, nobody trusts them.
Then I'm sure they'll be completely transparent about the criteria used for making the price changes and how the algorithm works, right? Because they're trustworthy, right?
You can absolutely depend on a publicly traded corporation that’s legally obligated to make decisions in the monetary interest of its shareholders—to behave in an altruistic fashion for the benefit of mankind.
ALL HAIL! 💲
Line go up, all praise the line.
No it's okay they're using an AI model, so inevitably they can point to the huge jumble of math and say "computer did it" when asked to defend the gouging. That's basically transparency, right?
Why not simply imprison the customers until they empty their wallets?
Disney is working on that with their streaming terms of service defence to poisoning a restaurant customer.
Just take a page from Musk and sue everyone who isn't purchasing your products.
EDGE (enhanced display for environment)
did not even try
whoops! that was our error! It's actually "Enhanced Display for Grocery Environment" which is at least an acronym. Fixed.
as a consumer, I love to be delighted by a grocery environment that only makes prices lower (than a baseline price Kroger themselves set based on factors like: lying about the impact of shoplifting; intentionally creating food deserts; colluding with other supermarket chains to keep prices high; vibes)
maybe if I’m an extra good consumer they’ll replace all the freezer doors with pointless screens you can’t see through that are all constantly broken but still manage to waste a fuckton of energy
my consumer experience will really be improved when every one of those screens is recording my movements for the noble goal of knowing when to replace the animated ad for monster energy with an extremely inaccurate listing of the items contained in the freezer
motherfuckers
oh god these ghouls are going to roll out personalized ads on door-thin displays the moment they can afford to, aren't they?
Still 1/5 acronym.
Those e-ink screens were already trouble during the pandemic inflation period when so many item tags didn't match the price when rung up at the register.
Individual pricing is only going to cause more problems with register and shelf price mismatch.
The more we disrupt them, the harder time they’re gonna have
Oh no, now they're going to be wirelessly connected. The problem I foresee is the price changing between when I see it and when I check out. Also, if that's solved and I see a bunch of people grabbing an item I may just hang out for another 40 minutes and ask for a price check at the register. See if it's come back down yet.
Either that or shop with a jamming device. Oops, nothing works.
Some of us out here are gonna reveal our human powered Kroger gouger
Shopping there is already an exercise in gouge-tolerance. The cheapest options for any given product are always sold out or close to it, while the expensive name brands are stocked to the brim. Everything is getting smaller, pricier, and made with cheaper and cheaper filler. I don't think they even use flour in Kroger brand bread anymore.
What's even more fucked up is we are overproducing food on a scale that is destroying the soil and a huge portion of food goes to waste well before it is even processed for sale (don't feel upset for tossing away leftovers... all of our leftovers combined are a drop in the waste bucket).
Yet despite this they insist on cutting more and more corners. In the 19th they did this and produced highly toxic results... and it was not only outlawed, but American food production made the prices so cheap that it was not needed anymore.
Yet we have shit being done today that would still shock people back then.
What else would they use? Sawdust?
Heavens no. They need to save that for the parmesan cheese shakers.
At least it's still lactose-free~
Can’t wait to break em just bc 🔨 I wonder what it costs to replace those tags
I'll bet a little, pocket-sized center punch would kill them right quick.
not just no, but Makhno
Ned Ludd told me to do it.
Between this and the Japanese grocery store with the Company Face, I'm wondering how much are we going to have to ~~bribe~~ pay Charles Stross to write the book where the good guys win
@o7___o7 (Checks …) you may like "A Conventional Boy" (coming next January 7th)? And if I ever get "Ghost Engine" (the space opera) done, that has a happy ending.
hype :>
:D
Appreciate you!
about as likely as getting Charlie Brooker to write a good ending
Price gouge algorithms is a good name for them
I wonder if it is possible to confuse the cameras. Figure out what criteria make a price lower (skin color? time of day? no idea), then dress up like that / wear a mask with a face printed on it or something.
Good thing I already don't shop there!
