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Boots need shining, and Dessalines is positively salivating at the thought
This sounds like a unjustified callout and a bit of an ad hominem. He doesn't argue against tools for dissent, but specifically against Signal and recommends matrix. link to post
Any communication tool that requires you to personally identify yourself through a phone number and is hosted centrally in the US is not good for dissidents.
He doesn’t argue against tools for dissent,
He says it's a 'smart move' for the totalitarian countries he simps for to ban signal. It's not just a question of preference.
No. He's a well known Tankie and has a Castro profile picture. So crying about privacy while rooting for autocrats is absolutely laughable.
Are you suggesting that the US would compel signal to turn data about Venezuelan dissidents over to Maduro?
I mean, there's maybe a conversation to be had about the wisdom of using Signal in particular, but I really struggle to imagine a justification for banning it anywhere near that conversation. Furthermore, we all know Dessalines is a redfash bootlicker. His intent here is very clearly more cheerleading for said boot
I agree the callout is unjustified, but there is still something to be said when those countries ban Signal but aren't banning WhatsApp.
Shoutput to simplex as another option
Not fully decentralized but you can host your own servers or use whichever ones you want
Signal was already made to hand over all the data they stored for one account at least in the US, here is a video describing how that went: https://youtu.be/3oPeIbpA5x8
Tell me though, which company will not hand over what data they have when asked by their country's judiciary?
The question here is how much data they keep. Strict legal minimum or more.
You obviously didn't watch the video, the point made is not that there is information being handed over (every company has to comply with legal orders), but that Singal handed over nothing except 2 timestamps shared as integers.
Congrats if you can stand more than a minute of this 4chan-esque garbage but I'm not gonna sit through 10 minutes of it while they stretch out getting to the actual point. If you want to bring forth an argument, don't start with "watch this random ass YouTube video" where I have to sit through some garbage and have to then fact check every potential point made.
Here's what the video is based on: https://signal.org/bigbrother/cd-california-grand-jury/
I get not watching the video, I didn't, but why reply then? It's obvious you would be off the mark. Also, sometimes the description is enough to get what a video is about, here it was.
You are correct though, I did indeed not watch it. Hence I misunderstood the comment I was answering to as being negative towards Signal. Thanks for the added context.
While this is true it's still good to add nuance.
There is a difference between judiciary and intelligence context in these kind of things, if you use a tool in a judiciary context you burn it (as with the FBI malware on Playpen). So it's probably better to keep it low, even avoid to use some of the information gathered, so you keep the intelligence source.
I'm not saying that's what's going on, just that this is not an absolute proof.
Yeah, better use Telegram /s
He continues by saying use matrix
Banning signal is like saying im about to commit some serious crimes against humanity. Typical tankie shit lords like that however.
That's a way to know it's banned. Zero local coverage, but yes, it doesn't work without tricks as I've tested. That's said, it's a nice proof it's is\was relatively safe to use and popular in said countries and the likes.
Dess may seem smug for promoting mtx over Signal, but it's one less channel for communication, and they'd try to come for mtx next.
Wasn't it protect-your-privacy-Snowden who pushed for signal a few years ago?