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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly terminal commands are like a picky voice assistant that you talk to via keyboard... you tell the computer to do something and it just does it, or it fusses at you that you screwed up something.

Clicking stuff ends up being the slower way once you know what you are doing...

Real command-line users only need two keys, enter and up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At some point, I realize that I'm furiously clicking the up arrow twenty times just to reenter a command that was two words long anyway and far quicker to type out. Not even CTRL+R would make it more efferent than typing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even with mid-command matching, like "ctrl+r Doc" for "cd Documents"? Just in case not everyone has found that you don't have to match from the beginning of the string you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I seriously think it was something like git add

I was probably beyond tired.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What!? You have forever changed my life. Teach me more sensei.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

a gui is legitimately slower in most contexts. I will never understand why people feel like they need one so bad.

edit: spelling mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hmm, now that I think about it, I want to say a GUI provides a (potentially false) sense of security.

At the very least, it gives an intuitive sense of direction, so that you can use a program with very little understanding of it. Things like Handbrake over ffmpeg I'd prefer over having to look up how to do 2-pass conversions online every time I want to make one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The menus tell you all of the things it can do in a relatively intuitive way. It's easier and quicker to get started than reading the help/man page and remembering commands. Much shallower learning curve -- but of course, a much lower ceiling on what you can do as your proficiency grows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

While I love using a terminal, there are certainly things that I prefer a TUI or a GUI for. But they should be navigable using the keyboard. I can move files around much faster using Total Commander or Midnight Commander rather than using the terminal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People say Linux is complicated while you can literally just run one script and have everything setup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

no, you can literally dictate what to do without having a computer in front of you.. On Windows, try to remember in which window, page of that window and which button to click to change anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Friends don't let friends GUI. ;-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

GUI more like ewwie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I open it up and see beautiful moving colours! hohahaha! and everything feeeels sloower

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately people will never use anything that requires cli usage for basic operations en masse which kinda hinders significant adoption of Linux

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically me whenever I try to use Linux on a permanent basis. What's that, you want to run a program at boot? You'll have to do it all in CLI and there's a pretty high chance you'll brick the OS. Oh, and don't make any spelling mistakes!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure which distro you were using, but most have an autostart gui option and you would have to make some serious spelling mistakes to brick your system.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case, Raspbian on a Raspberry Pi. I was trying to set up a script that would connect to a network storage device automatically. There's not a simple way to do it, you have to go about it in a hacky way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it not use systemd? Sounds like a pretty easy systemd init script that waits on network.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hell, that could just be an fstab entry

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's me with Git. If my colleagues need help and they're on the CLI, I can just literally spell them out everything they need. But if they're using some sort of Git GUI, it's always like, WTF are all these buttons? Are you sure, Git even has that many features? How do I tell it to do XYZ with certain flags? Are you sure, this isn't missing some Git features?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think git's CLI is not a good user interface but with how ubiquitous it is as a VCS, it's better to power through the oddities and become proficient in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I always tell new trainees, they can use a GUI, but they won't get around learning how the CLI works, as when they look anything up about Git, they'll only find commands.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is myself with my colleagues. I use Lazygit and GitUI daily, otherwise I would spend a lifetime typing out numerous Git commands every day. And it is amazing how much one can do and how fast with these TUIs. But if a colleague needs something, and of course, they do not have these programs, all I can is just shrug and point them to the internet, as I have already forgotten all the little flags and parameters for more advanced commands. It is incredible how easy these TUIs make Git to use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, cool that it works for you, but that is kind of why I stay away from the GUIs, too: I do not want to forget how the CLI works. Or even just become less comfortable in it.

When you need to look anything up about Git, you get told commands, and I need to mess with Git repos on remote servers every now and then.
Also, even if I can't help colleagues in their GUI, they generally have the CLI somewhere.

I do use a shell with type-ahead suggestions to alleviate the typing somewhat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the question is never going to be

How to do with GUI?

It's rather going to be

why on earth would I do that when I can just click some buttons on windows?

or

Can't we just use settings menu?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can’t we just use settings menu?

Which one? I heard Microsoft's up to three now