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[–] Blaster_M 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

A friend of mine's dad worked in some capacity of pigs. Which lead to my friend finding out that some people had either by really random luck in attempting something like the comic or also finding out from interacting with pigs. That in the city I lived in, there is like a "panic" signal that auto calls for lots of help that involved hitting a specific letter or number multiple times. For some reason I want to say it was maybe either zero or O, but I don't remember off hand.

So when they would be quickly inputting a plate with enough taps and not thinking, shit would cause resources to be pulled and wasted. Not great for attracting attention to the driver since it is basically pulling aggro. But could be great for moving attention from somewhere else.

[–] whotookkarl 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

400-700 for a single article of clothing with no mention of what facial recognition software this affects, how effective it is and what is the failure rate, error bounds, etc. Sounds like a scam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call it a "scam" just manipulative marketing. This stuff doesn't seem like it'd work for any of the modern facial recognition options, but that's just a guess. If it did work well and they were proud of it, you can be sure that'd be part of the marketing, so it at best is mediocre if not useless.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call it a "scam" just manipulative marketing

the difference?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Not who you asked, but I think some might argue that it would be a scam if you ordered it and it didn't arrive or something like that. If it works against one facial recognition model than technically it is just bad marketing. Either way is bad, though.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunatly its a cat and mouse game. Except the cat is a easily deployable software problem and the mouse is buy new clothing hardware problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they've been around for some time now: https://www.reflectacles.com

Ghost uses a frame-applied material that reflects both infrared and visible light. In low light environments they will maintain your privacy on cameras using infrared for illumination and also block 3D infrared facial mapping during both day & night. The visible light reflection can make you anonymous in images/videos using a flash in low light.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Ghost is $170 (US, I'm assuming). Not great but not bad for a wicked cool looking pair of sunglasses. Considering Ray-Bans are around $200 (and, no offense, look like they're from Tesco), and that Ghost are privacy focused, I'd say that price seems not that bad. Still high, though.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If its radioactive then it will disrupt the image sensor. It mist also disrupt your dna but u dont need that do ya.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Light emitting diode (screens sewn on fabric) not lead lined 😁

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Fuck im retarded. But maybe a automated laser targeting system.

[–] Etterra 3 points 2 months ago

I guess I'll just wear radium paint then.

[–] z00s 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The method that Cap_able has patented allows the wearer to incorporate the algorithm into the fabric of the clothing and still look stylish.

I was with you up until the stylish bit

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Everyone’s a critic

[–] FinalRemix 6 points 2 months ago

I for one think looking like a texture ripped from DooM is stylish.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] z00s 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh right. I forget that definitions change

[–] z00s 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] z00s 2 points 2 months ago

maybe it never changed

[–] CaptainSpaceman 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This will work for about 10 minutes. Better off wearing a facemask, bandana, juggalo face paint, etc

[–] lessthanluigi 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'll take the juggalo face paint even though I am not a juggalo

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

can't they still id you with a mask? apples face id can work with a mask. though I suppose that has depth data too

[–] TragicNotCute 1 points 2 months ago

Almost certainly. The facial ID is good enough that US customs didn’t even want to see my passport. Just a photo was enough to let me back in the country. I even significantly changed my hair between departure and arrival. Shit is scary.

[–] Etterra 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So I guess we're wearing broken JPEGs now huh?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I want this to be a thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Glitch art clothing would be dope even if it didn't help with AI fuzzing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's only a matter of time before a cop charges someone with obstruction for trying to disrupt a camera system (during the commission of a crime, I mean).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Or they just work around it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Good for privacy! But I really doubt it would work for all recognition systems.

Some funny pitfalls that may occur - Self driving cars would prefer to hit that person if had to make a choice between him and some other human. And, there is possibility that the Street mapping cars would not blur his face for the lack of detection.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

$246?! I can't afford that. For that price I'd rather avoid cameras and such. Cool technology though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

AI probably was already patched 5 minutes after the article came out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can't really "patch" LLMs like most software; you'd have to retrain them, no?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah but they don't use LLMs for this, they'll use some other kind of machine learning mixed in a big pipeline of data processing. It makes it really hard to guess how much work it would take to fix. It might require retraining, might just require an easy patch of the rest of the pipeline.

My guess is that they're just shitty jumpers and there's nothing to fix anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I dont know, I would just assume they could update (or retrain) to adapt pretty quickly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know either, I wasn't trying to be condescending or anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Those people are just dressed like regular Australians.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

🎶"Because I'm tacky..." 🎵

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

William Gibson's Ugly Shirt come to life

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Absolutely cool. I will have to revise all my internalized cyberpunk imagery though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This would be a good article if the pictures actually showed people wearing the clothes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Literally the header image...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What's with the floating heads?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I see a couple people, and some oddly colored blobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh! HHahhahhhHah! That's a good joke! Wooshed right over my head hahahahahahahah!

Edit: correct autocorrect

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Their demo video looks horrible. They are using a trash algorithm to demo the detection failing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Similar tech has been around for a while, and it almost always gets beaten.

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