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I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme

sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Supposedly New Zealand straight-up denies people for ever recieving psychiatric help. It's insane. I'm wondering about the shit show that's going to happen when LGBT, POC and disabled Americans are actually forced to start fleeing the US, only to find that countries tend to have laws against US citizens seeking refuge, against people with disabilities immigrating, etc.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Most Americans don't realize that the U.S. is by far the easiest developed country to immigrate to, by a country mile. It's still an incredibly difficult feat, but our standards are really, really low. For most developed countries, you'll need to have a specialized, useful education, a significant amount of capital on-hand, a clean bill of health, and you'll need to learn a new language.

My "plan" for a Trump election is to try and get a student visa to complete my PhD in neuroscience, and then I'll overstay and escape to the European wilderness as an illegal immigrant. I wouldn't hold my breath for a promise of asylum.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Most European countries offer PhDs in English and have a rule where if you actually graduate in that country and get a job in the same field, you can stay.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah. I'm absolutely fucked. See you on the other side I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Awwwww there goes that plan.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Belgium, Germany, Spain, The Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, France to name a few. Also Mexico for some reason

Did you actually look or are you just upset?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

me after I accidentally spread misinformation on the internet

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

It happens! You're learning!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As a German, afaik if you want to permanently move to germany you need to prove that you can support yourself financially (or someone else will?), so you will need a job offer and or some savings.

There is no requirement to not be disabled, but being disabled could make fulfilling those requirements more difficult.

[–] Ballistic_86 2 points 3 months ago

This is true for the US as well. It’s why legal immigration into the US isn’t as easy as people would try to pretend. Other than a student visa, you are required to have a sponsor. Whether that be a family member or significant other that can support you, or a place of business that is going to be paying you a salary so a person can support themselves.

There are also limitations based on country of origin. Some countries don’t have that much “competition” when it comes to people applying for citizenship, so they can get through the process quickly. Other countries have huge populations of people attempting to immigrate, causing year of delays on processing paperwork. That is why “illegal” immigration is so common in the US. The process is bogged down in bureaucracy and paperwork, all of which generally require time/money/legal representation. Something a majority of US citizens could not afford if they had to do so to stay in the country.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Australia & New Zealand deny immigrants with an autism diagnosis!

[–] gerbler 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] gerbler 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not defending the policy (it's indefensible) but as per that article there was a single case 20 years ago of a rejection because of Autism which was overturned. So I don't think it's fair to say Australia doesn't allow people with Autism diagnoses to immigrate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] surewhynotlem 12 points 3 months ago

There are rules (enforced) and there are rules (unenforced). This is still a bad rule, and needs to be fixed. But we can still acknowledge that they're doing a good thing by ignoring it.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Wait, who what now? I'm not aware of any extra immigration requirements based on your health situation. I certainly didn't get asked when I was a migrant.

[–] Magister 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To where? If you migrate to Canada you have to pass medical exam and all

[–] Cosmicomical 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (20 children)

It makes sense if you remember that the universal healthcare system is insurance.

So if you are trying to migrate without a job but with an expensive disabillity and little money, then you are just a liabillity to the healthcare system.

And since the country is under no obligation to pay for the care, there is no reason for them to do so.

It is just basic resource management, you may not like it, but it is reality, regardless of what political system the country uses.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

I guess it is about proving that you can provide for yourself otherwise you won't be allowed to permanently stay. But this doesn't really have anything to do with the healthcare system. Just a guess.

[–] SlothMama 15 points 3 months ago (37 children)

Lots of places have this, I wouldn't be able to be a Canadian citizen because of it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

As a skilled worker with a kidney transplant, I am painfully aware of this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Skill issue, should've been born in one of those countries

[–] outsideno1877 12 points 3 months ago

Damnit im stuck in america

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