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Car manufacturers—and all businesses—should take note that the FTC will take action to protect consumers against the illegal collection, use, and disclosure of their personal data.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At what point do we start asserting this via bricks?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As soon as you decide you're too impatient to do it in a non-violent manner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Patience doesn't seem super useful if the harm is persistent and ongoing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Or when we decide to stop framing the destruction of fossil fuel infrastructure as violence.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They'll get around this by painting a EULA on the windows: "By approaching close enough to read this you give us the right to do whatever we want with whatever data we can collect."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just because you "agree" to a EULA doesn't necessarily mean its legally defensible. Its an avenue that a company can point to and say "look, we did our due diligence", but if effective safeguards are in place a good judge can throw it out the window.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, EULA says you agree to non-binding arbitration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Which just means no civil suits.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

OBJECTS IN MIRROR HAVE MORE DATA COLLECTED ON THEM THAN IT APPEARS

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

There is a lot of laws around what a contract can do. you cannot have a contract for murder for example. EULA are the lowest form as the other party doesn't have a choice, particularly if the terms change after the sale. contact a lawyer for the current state, but last I checked they were not well tested, and gnerally considered breakable in court.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

By clicking this button, you signed over right to your asshole... take your pans off and lay down any resistance is violation of the EULA and we will use FBI to fuck you even harder!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

uh oh slap on the wrist incoming

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They won't actually do anything meaningful since this isn't hurting the 1%.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it could hurt the 1%. Car manufacturers gather a laughably huge amount of data. Everything from where you shop, to your genetic information, to who you’re sleeping with.

All it would take is a group of 99%’ers pooling money to buy the info of lawmakers, CEOs, etc… When it’s suddenly their info being sold, I bet they’ll be a lot more amenable to protections. Because when the lawmakers’ secret affairs start getting aired by their car, they’ll be quick to shut that shit down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

How do we start

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Until you stop them, your words mean nothing. They've been doing this for years and you did literally nothing to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Fuk 'em harder!