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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

proverbs πŸ₯ΆπŸ₯ΆπŸ₯Ά

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the $70/month worth the price for the "pro" version? Or should i just pirate it?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pirate it. but be careful using cracked phrases! it could be actually an idiom 😱

[–] Viking_Hippie 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bart Simpson: YOU'RE an idiom!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

better to be that than an oxymoron

[–] Viking_Hippie 3 points 1 year ago

You mean like Rush Limbaugh, may he rest in piss?

[–] ghariksforge 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My native language does not have gendered pronouns. It makes the language simpler and more efficient.

[–] DAKTA_NZ 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are a straightforward and practical people

[–] ghariksforge 4 points 1 year ago
[–] shiftymccool 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is the way all language should be. Gendered words of any kind serve absolutely no purpose

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I couldn't disagree more, many people may not fit into genders, but most people do and simply knowing whether someone is a man or a woman is very useful. Gendered nouns though, like in French, Spanish, Italian etc. serve no purpose but do encode redundancy into the language which can be very valuable for speaking in loud places

[–] shiftymccool 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other languages get around just fine without gendered pronouns. I bet there are other languages that feel like English is missing valuable concepts as well (not necessarily gender-related) , but we don't miss them since we never had them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say they didn't, simply that the idea that "Gendered words serve no purpose" is untrue, they are very useful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have their use, but I'd say in most sentences the gender doesn't matter at all.

"She went to the grocery store.": Here the gender of that person is as important as any other attribute like the color of their shoes.

Imagine we have pronouns based on shoe color, let's say "de" for someone wearing white shoes. "De went to the grocery store."

And now someone proposes we could ged rid of that pronoun and you say "knowing what shoe color people wear is very useful though!"

[–] shiftymccool 1 points 1 year ago

This is a better way to word the point I was trying to make. Gender is just another detail in the sentence. If more details are needed, like the gender of the subject, they can be called out specifically like every other detail, like shoe color.

I agree that gendered pronouns can be somewhat useful, but definitely not "very" useful. I can't even contrive a situation where it would be very useful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I would argue it does make a difference. Like I said, many people don't fit gender norms, but most people do. So knowing it's a woman shopping can suggest a array of things.

  • She will likely be buying some degree more female-oriented or marketed products, a strong example being tampons or a weaker example being beauty products

  • Her experience shopping will be that of a woman's, i.e. she might get patronised in the hardware section or sales-bullied in the technology section, both of which are quite common for women even now

I really can't think of an example where you interact with other people where a woman's experience won't be affected by her being a woman.

[–] ghariksforge 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It also makes you realize that all this pronoun craziness is silly and unimportant. There are much more important things demanding our attention. Pronoun battles are a first world problem.

[–] jpeps 16 points 1 year ago

It should be unimportant, but some people kick up such a fuss about having to learn new things or changing what they claim is 'natural' that it is important to a lot of people. Gender is both a social construct, and a very real thing that does warrant discussion.

[–] whenigrowup356 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fight over pronouns is just the first step in "othering" trans people. It helps to reinforce the idea that they're strange, not like you, not traditional, not natural.

The next steps are to deny healthcare, access to equal treatment from discrimination, things like that. There are leaders in the USA making statements that transgenderism should be "eradicated."

If you aren't dealing with shit like this in your area, I'm genuinely happy for you and I hope this never comes near you. But for lots of people, it's quite a bit more serious than a first world problem.

[–] ghariksforge 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not serious at all. This is a typical first world problem.

This is a world full of war, disease and poverty. There are more important problems than pronouns.

[–] whenigrowup356 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As I said, the pronoun conversation isn't really about pronouns. It's about tribalism and scapegoating.

How much time did you spend thinking about pronouns or trans people before gay and lesbian relationships began to be normalized and legalized in The West?

Trans people have a new target on their backs because most people don't know someone who is trans and thus don't understand them. They're a scapegoat for right-wing groups to organize and fight against because they lost the ability to be quite so open with their homophobia.

Trans people are, according to some studies, as high as 4 times as likely to be victims of sexual assault and 3.5 times as likely to commit suicide.

Again, this is serious. Trans lives matter, Period.

[–] ghariksforge 2 points 1 year ago

It's not as serious as 99% of the stuff going on in this world.

This whole pronoun nonsense is a great way to distract society from the real problems. Better have people argue over pronouns than to discuss inequality or war.

[–] Mighty 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PREACH! trans people are being killed for existing. and this priviledged person is all like "dOn'T yOu hAvE rEaL pRoBlEmS?!"

[–] whenigrowup356 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. Some people really don't get it so I try to communicate in good faith on this issue but damn does it feel like banging your head into a brick wall sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If it’s so silly and unimportant why do people bitch and moan about using the pronouns someone feels comfortable with?

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[–] shiftymccool 0 points 1 year ago

I say nearly this same thing, which is probably similar to what every generation says about the next one. Wait until they "grow up" and find out what real problems are. Your pronoun won't mean much if you lose your job and have to figure out how to pay the mortgage and for groceries before your kids starve.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is a lamp more of a woman or a man..? Do I have a masculine microwave? How married is mrs Butterworth?

[–] DharkStare 2 points 1 year ago

That always messed me up in Spanish class. Trying to remember the gender of objects so the rest of the sentence could be gendered properly.

[–] andy_wijaya_med 2 points 1 year ago

Mine doesn't either (Indonesian). We don't have grammatical tense, we don't have grammatical case, we don't have conjugation, declination and we still have communicate effectively!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that Jayce from Magic The Gathering?

[–] swab148 14 points 1 year ago

Least confused planeswalker

[–] n3cr0 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a: "What's your pronouns?"

b: "I don't collect pronouns. What's your verbs?"

a: "What?"

b: "What?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Oh no, I'm declining!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cheems 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Casesβ€¦πŸ˜³

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are there languages that conjugate verbs differently based on he/she instead of just a general usted? That would be untoldly confusing.

[–] WaffleFriends 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian does in the past tense but I find it to be a really simple change

Example: He/She/It/They were reading

Он Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°Π»

Она Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°Π»Π°

Они Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°Π»ΠΈ

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Оно Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°Π»ΠΎ

[–] WaffleFriends 2 points 1 year ago

Dunno how I forgot about neuter lol

[–] excusablejuan 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is confusing when you learn it.

Spanish can be hard to learn when it comes to conjugations, but pronunciation of words is way easier than English.

While spanish doesnt have different conjugations for he/she it does for articles.

Masculine article: El clima (the weather)

Feminine article: La Escuela (the school)

[–] BugleFingers 3 points 1 year ago

I just had to stop munching on my bugles to check if you had 2 open blue. That was instinctual upon seeing Jace

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Verbs shouldn't even be attempted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Verbs not even

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cries in portuguese language.

[–] TheFrirish 1 points 1 year ago

French, Italian and Spanish

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