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“We are in dire need of workers, so there is a lot of fear from across the state ... that this new law will actually be devastating."

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[–] OasissisaO 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this the "find out" part?

I think this is the "find out" part.

[–] dethb0y 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The best part will be when they find out that local floridians absolutely will not work for the same wages, and in many cases any wage, for the same labor. Similar actions in the past have left crops rotting in the fields because no one wants to harvest them. This incident in california comes to mind although of course that was nowhere near as harsh...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The sad thing is, the more likely "fix" for this will just be legalizing this insane system of unfairly and illegally-paid migrant workers rather than forcing the ag businesses to offer fair compensation.

Like, I love seeing Desantis hoisted by his own petard here, but also... it should not be legal to exploit undocumented workers. If these workers are necessary to make the economy function, something is wrong with the economy. Which is definitely true for the US agricultural economy.

Much like with Reedy Creek, he's doing the right thing in the stupidest way possible and for the absolutely wrong reasons.

[–] Ensign_Crab 20 points 1 year ago

The sad thing is, the more likely “fix” for this will just be legalizing this insane system of unfairly and illegally-paid migrant workers rather than forcing the ag businesses to offer fair compensation.

Or they'll use prisoners.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Would it even be America without a non-citizen underclass to do all the hard work while their free existence in society is made illegal, justifying oppressive police forces to "deal with the problem"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Legalizing immigrants means they can't get deported for fighting back or trying to quit. And having no choice is the #1 requirement for exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't the uk go through the same shit recently as well?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yup. Surprise surprise, if you exit the EU you're not going to get business from a lot of truck drivers that live in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yes.

This is all easily predictable if you aren't in an un-reality bubble.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The Brexit leopard ate their Brexit faces.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol it fuckin better be devastating, maybe the republicans will realize just how much their leadership is impeding progress. Probably not though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They will never realize. At this point they're being fed a completely different narrative in their echo chambers. It's never their fault & they're always fighting the good fight.

[–] BrerChicken 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

maybe the republicans will realize just how much their leadership is impeding progress.

There will always be so many dumb ones. I mean, when was the last time you saw a poltical slogan--written on a $60K truck with white duct tape--that wasn't republican? Politicians in both parties are crooks, but the diehards in one party are just so much more ignorant.

[–] henfredemars 18 points 1 year ago

No one could have predicted this /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Anyone who wears a shirt with their own name on it is a loser in my book.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be frank, I think this is a good thing. Maybe working conditions will improve. Leftists always say with businesses that pay shit wages "If raising your employee pay to a living wage would kill your business, it didn't deserve to exist in the first place."

That should apply to everyone.

Keeping this system of exploitation (which is what hiring undocumented immigrants is) is an affront to humanity. It's sad that this is even tolerated. I mean, DeSantis is a hack who hates freedom and should not become president, but this is one of his few moves I (mostly) agree with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being forced to pay competitive wages would be a major benefit to poor/uneducated workers and their families.

I always love the line, “Americans won’t do X kind of labor.”

Nope, not for $3/hr. Working in a field for $30/hr? I suspect there would be little difficulty hiring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely. Hell, maybe if food started to rot on the vine, we'd get a WWII-style sense of community back. Americans were (mostly) Americans first, political camps second when it was wartime. And saving our nation from (supposed) starvation I think would bring lots and lots together. Something this country damn well needs with how isolated we are as people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

"Uninspired by the recruiting call, independent we stand, independent we fall."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This fucking nerd

[–] spaysi 4 points 1 year ago

Oh looky there, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions! 🫣I’m only worried about all that food that will rot in the fields, Florida farms feed a lot of people… good for the immigrant workers saying F this and leaving the state though, more power to them and I hope they all find better alternative employment in more friendly parts of the country.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)