this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2023
1 points (100.0% liked)
Communism101
50 readers
1 users here now
This is a community for those who are new to or unfamiliar with communist, socialist or simply leftist philosophy. Ask basic questions here and learn about what we stand for!
Rules:
- Keep things SFW!
- Keep posts and comments civil.
- Don't attack someone for not knowing "enough" about communism or leftism.
- Civil discussion and debate is welcome, trolling and hate speech is not.
- No racism, sexism, homophobia, inciting crime/violence, etc.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
This cracker mentality is exactly why they don't take marxists seriously.
They will if those people try to do things their own way, but as it stands they have enough on their plate holding their own border (similar to Cuba, which sends aid but not soldiers due to US pressure). It's like asking a starving man why he won't donate to charity while doing nothing yourself, and why Galeano calls out the Basque revolutionaries who pointed a finger while failing to take root in their own territory. They haven't shown they can do the work, while the EZLN has. You are the chauvinist he is addressing in his letter.
Lovely racial slur. I have been advocating on their behalf, sent money to them, and bought their coffee as well. I'm sorry to have criticisms of them, but they have been isolating themselves deliberately, which is an error. I admire the Cubans for sending aid to people who show no solidarity with them and denounce their movement, which is the right choice to make.
It's a slur, if a weak one. But sure, advocating a broader movement built on their successes is chauvinist, I guess.
You are a cracker who thinks buying coffee and posting online are revolutionary activities
It's all I can do short of flying there and picking up a rifle. I'm in and have been in a couple of orgs in real life that have given messages of support their way. What have you done for them?
I'm not the one fantasizing about crushing indigenous peoples if they don't comply
I'm not fantasizing about it, I was asking if it might have to happen. This is not the same as saying that it is should happen, this is wondering if conflict between militant non-Marxists and militant Marxists might come to pass, as it often has before. I reiterate, in what way have you done more than me?
NORMAL PEOPLE do NOT go around "asking questions" about whether or not indigenous people should be crushed
And the most effort you've put into anything is impotent shitposting, so tone it down, kettle.
lmao I thought you were engaging in good faith until you said cracker is a slur
Like I said, it is a weak one, but it is none the less childish to call someone you disagree with names like this.
I'm not getting into the weeds about this with a stranger, but it's apparent that you don't understand that simply using mean name calling against the people in power is not the same as the people in power using hate speech to further their systemic order based on bigotry. You can't be racist to white people as long as white supremacy is the status quo.
What power do I have? I'm not a mod of any kind here, and if I had any power in society do you think I would be here? I'll grant I'm privileged, but power is something else that I neither have nor want.
It legitimately cannot be possible to be this fucking dense
Do you mean like, being white I have the power to commit hate crimes? I mean, suppose, but like I said I wouldn't want to do that kind of thing any way.
That's not what is being said, you dense fuck. Calling "cracker" a slur is fucking stupid, because White supremacy is still entrenched as the dominant ideology in the US.
Would you prefer I said epithet? Is that more accurate?
You're right about white supremacy, didn't I essentially acknowledge that with my comment?
NO
Privilege IS power
I've understood privilege in the context I am talking about, white racial privilege, to mean exemption from certain oppressions that others face rather than some sort of dispensation of power (of course other than to commit hate crimes and such). If that's an insufficient understanding, would you care to clarify?
Do you genuinely not comprehend that by having privilege, by being exempt from oppression, as you yourself have just stated, you have more power?
I guess? It seems like this could really just be a misunderstanding of terms here. When you said power I thinking of power as being something I can exercise or use, especially on or to someone or something. I am explicitly acknowledging that I have the power to do/say a broad number of things that could hurt many people and get away with it, I am aware from statistics that I have access to more financial resources than many people in this country so I have at least some economic power, and I am aware that the majority of that money ultimately comes from exploitation of oppressed peoples here and abroad. This kind of power and others I didn't list, I have, absolutely. I guess I was thinking you meant something a little more explicit, as you did accuse me of being CIA earlier.
No, see, what I meant is that you are a buffoon doing the CIA's job for free, and you should definitely apply for a career.
Yeah, the CIA famously hires MLs. Are you seriously claiming that my mild criticism is tantamount to the actions worst criminal organization in world history? Hell, this is the 101 sub, you're supposed to be allowed to get something wrong. Your constant name calling is one of the most childish things I've ever experienced from a leftist. While I'm not judging your ideas by the way you're presenting them, some people will, and I hope you rethink that approach to correcting people.
You are a White supremacist and you would fit right in with those bastards
How is that remotely true?
You argue for the crushing of indigenous people, you engage in White chauvinism, you attack everyone who has called you out on your bullshit, and you play dumb regarding your passive support of White supremacy by going "well, at least I'm not actively murdering minorities!"
You literally sound like a fucking colonial officer, for fuck's sake
You are scum and will rot in hell next to Hitler