The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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[–] Lemminary 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Widespread defederation has been the norm, though. It has always been a thing, and many threads exist going back and forth on mutual defederation for ages.

And also, the only reason I'm on Lemmy.world and not .ml is precisely because of their moderation and their community. I'm the example you're talking about.

I say bite the bullet and break the cord already. This is not the first or only thread calling for defederation of Lemmy.ml.

[+] gedaliyah -7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is that this is a unique instance. I also think that for my purposes, .world is a much better option, and I think that for most people, it's a much healthier and more stable place. I'm just not sure that the rest of lemmy can survive without .ml - It is literally where the development of the platform happens.

What do you do when you have defederated from the developers of the platform you're using? How do you have a working relationship to meet users needs? Someone will say just fork it, but that's essentially the same as launching a new platform. As I mentioned, others have done exactly that, partly for technical reasons relating to the vision of what the platform should be, but also for political reasons.

I'm not advocating for anything, i'm simply stating some of the realities of the platform we are using.

[+] [email protected] -21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Lemmy.world will happily destroy lemmy as a whole if their only other choice is allying with leftists.

[–] Badeendje 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What? That is just a silly argument.

People are discussing destructive moderation by .ml mods. And the damage this is causing to the community. And you go and turn it around by accusing .world of destruction of Lemmy in the hypothetical situation that consequences are connected to behavior of .ml mods and admins.

I believe the term for this is gaslighting?

[+] [email protected] -12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fracturing the space is way more destructive than whatever you mean by destructive moderating, since the moderating will only affect some communities and even within that, some users while defederating will split the user base.

[–] Badeendje 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is it though? As the moderation sets the tone and defines what is allowed conversation. By simply denying truth, they are guilty of the same "alternative facts" shit the trump camp is guilty of.. and that is pretty damn dangerous for everyone.

And unfortunately by setting an instance to block I still have to deal with their scummy Userbase all over the fediverse. deFederation removes that too. It is a solution to the issue. Just like we won't accept people coming on here and spouting actual nazi propaganda, an instance under the control of authoritarian apologists should not be kept around simply because they run a large instance.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're talking like a totalitarian. People with this worldview should not hold power, and certainly should not determine what is acceptable discourse.

It is disappointing to see that some Americans/Westerners are allergic to disagreeing worldviews. Apparently diversity is only permitted so long as it broadly supports liberal democracies and capitalist understandings of history.

Sickening stuff. Makes me think Lemmy isn't much better than Reddit, particularly if this attitude becomes more prevalent on here

[–] Badeendje 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

LoL.. project much?

Judging from your post history, you calling me names is something I'll wear as a badge of honor.

[–] assassin_aragorn 8 points 7 months ago

This is what Tankies seem incapable of understanding. We don't dislike you because you're leftists. We dislike you because you're authoritarian simping assholes.

Go to ml and condemn Russia for their war crimes against LGBT Ukrainians. See how long it takes for you to get banned for going against their beloved country.