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[–] [email protected] 103 points 7 months ago (4 children)

unlawfully hacking a Nintendo Switch console

What? It's my hardware, Apple lost his battle with jailbreaking years ago, Nintendo just shit out an already lost argument.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is not really the same thing.

The Apple lawsuit was about running unsigned code on the iPhone, which courts deemed that Apple couldn't use copyright as a tool to enforce its walled garden.

Nintendo isn't arguing about people modifying their switch to run homebrew. They're arguing that to use Yuzu you need to provide it with a copy of the decryption keys and system firmware which must be either extracted from a Switch or distributed illegally.

This is a much stronger case in Nintendo's favor, than the Apple jailbreak one. Although, I suspect the Yuzu dev has a better case as it's already legal to back up discs and ROMs as long as you dont distribute them and they're not responsible for other people's actions if they choose to break copyright

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IIRC Sony lost their lawsuit which was almost identical to Nintendo's. I'm guessing they are hoping for a far friendlier conservative court.

[–] mihnt 7 points 7 months ago

They lost, but killed the dev through attrition.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Emulation has also been litigated to hell and is also very clearly legal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

As long as they don't distribute copyrighted material, they should be good. Hopefully a judge throws this out due to no evidence of actual copyright violation.

[–] TootSweet 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. That bit stood out to me as well. I posted in the other cross-post that I wonder if that means Nintendo's going to try to go after stuff like Atmosphere and Hekate etc next.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

The hacking discords were just hit with another wave of bans across the board. Sure, a lot of them were sharing piracy links, but I know of several that clearly weren't and still got nuked. Nintendo is going hard into repression, next step is probably going to be going after modchip sellers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They probably know they'll lose. But they can drag Yuzu creators through court and bleed them dry in the process.

We should ban the practice of tying software to hardware, and the creation of arbitrary restrictions for such practices.

In my opinion there are a few legitimate cases for piracy and platform exclusives is one of them. And these pirates prove it's completely possible for Nintendo to make it available for sale on other platforms. If Nintendo doesn't make it available for sale, it should be a free-for-all. I don't want to buy a Switch. I don't want to buy an Xbox or a PS5. Not to mention paying the 30% Nintendo tax for the privilege of creating a game that actually runs on it. And I don't want to feed any of these megacorporations my telemetry. Fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Sony tried the same thing with geohotz and lost.