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Using Beehaw's /c/gaming community as an example: Can someone please explain why I am still able to view this community and even see new posts? I also saw a few posts from beehaw users themselves in the last day. According to the explanation from the admins, I should be able to see posts in /c/gaming ONLY from other lemmy.world users, however that does not appear to be the case. I am seeing content from other instances, including beehaw. Can someone explain?

I read the explanation for defederation like 20 times and I still don't understand. It is incredibly confusing so if someone could explain this properly, that would be great. Thanks!

The thing I’m confused about is whether or not we should be seeing posts from anyone on /c/gaming @beehaw.org (as an example) that’s not from lemmy.world. Does that make sense? According to the admin’s post here, we shouldn’t, however I am still seeing a few posts that look new. Is this due to the caching issues? Because I’m definitely not seeing ALL of the new posts, just a handful. This is what i cannot seem to get a straight answer on. The below says no, however I definitely am 100% seeing posts from non-lemmy.world users on /c/[email protected]

https://lemmy.world/post/149743

“This won’t ever stop. You’ll notice that all posts after defederation are only from lemmy.world users. You won’t see posts/comments from ANY other instance (including instances that ) on beehaw.org communities. Those communities will quickly suck for us, as we’re only talking to other lemmy.world users. Your posts/comments are not being sent to any other lemmy. I highly recommend just unsubscribing from those communities, since they’re pretty pointless for us to be in right now.”

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The comment you linked to is provably wrong per your post. You can test whether the alternate theory is correct by posting on beehaw from your Lemmy.world account and then viewing the thread from beehaw (just don't login if you don't have an account).

Let us know how it goes.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The thing I'm confused about is whether or not we should be seeing posts from anyone on /c/gaming that's not from lemmy.world. Does that make sense? According to the admin's post here, we shouldn't, however I am still seeing a few posts that look new. Is this due to the caching issues? Because I'm definitely not seeing ALL of the new posts, just a handful. This is what i cannot seem to get a straight answer on. The below says no, however I definitely am 100% seeing posts from non-lemmy.world users on /c/[email protected]..........

https://lemmy.world/post/149743

"This won’t ever stop. You’ll notice that all posts after defederation are only from lemmy.world users. You won’t see posts/comments from ANY other instance (including instances that ) on beehaw.org communities. Those communities will quickly suck for us, as we’re only talking to other lemmy.world users. Your posts/comments are not being sent to any other lemmy. I highly recommend just unsubscribing from those communities, since they’re pretty pointless for us to be in right now."

[–] AlataOrange 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's important to remember as well that whether or not we should and whether or not we are or not the same thing.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420 1 points 1 year ago

Right, which would imply there is an issue across the fediverse with properly enforcing defederation. I'm just trying to make sure I understand how it's supposed to work.